Well, I certainly must say that I did not expect so many good responses!
Thank you everyone for sharing your input and advice, I appreciate it very much. It never ceases to amaze me the wealth of experience and information from forum members that can be drawn upon to help those less experienced of us.
ghostman said:
Let me get this straight. You are able to smoke a massive dose, and while you are in jimjam land you are able to stand up and do shit like open curtains?
That is correct. I managed to open the blinds just barely feeling like I was caught in some sort of rift in the space-time continuum alla star trek. My hypothesis was that this was happening because there was no light and it was promoting my imagination. Well, when I opened those blinds and looked outside, boy was I disapointed haha. Here I literally said to myself "You've done it now. You've somehow damaged the very fabric of reality, opened some sort of hole or gateway across several dimensions, and now your stuck here for all eternity". It was at this point I literally lost hope. It was terrifying.
۩ said:
Try meditating while in hyperspace...
Why not be just like your avatar?
The body dies so the soul can bloom.
I will definitly try this next time, athough I cannot possibly imagine being able to hold still while falling through the rabbit hole. I should think that it becomes easier with practice though.
Spock's Brain said:
I HOPE YOU LEARNED YOUR LESSON!!!
My friend, the only lesson I learned was that before this experience, I was so naive to think I knew anything about how the cosmos worked. I am now certain that this is no conventional drug as we commonly think of them. Instead, I believe that it is a portal of sorts into the spirit world/other dimensions or what ever you choose to call it.
gibran2 said:
Sounds like my most intense experience (about 3 weeks ago). Except I didn’t feel like I was dying. I was absolutely convinced that I had died. And I had left my body far behind, so there was no going back and forth between this world and “that” world.
And there’s a way to tell if you’ve had an incredibly deep experience (aside from the experience itself!). If, upon returning to this world and returning to your body you are absolutely convinced that you’ll no longer be able to function in society after having witnessed what you just witnessed, then you know you've had a profound experience.
So beautiful and so terrible.
I can relate very much to your experience, and that sounds about how I felt. I was certain that there was no returning to my previous state of existence. I was thinking about your definition of a profound experience all day today. I have been strugling to integrate what has happened to me in my normal life, and I have now arrived at the conclusion that I had what could be characterized as a mystical experience. The following is an excerpt from the website
How to Recognize a Mystical Experience which, as the title of the site indicates, describes certain criteria that may indicate that you have experienced something mystical. To summerize:
* Ineffability – the handiest of the marks by which I classify a state of mind as mystical is negative. The subject of it immediately says that it defies expression, that no adequate report of its contents can be given in words. It follows from this that its quality must be directly experienced; it cannot be imparted or transferred to others.
* Noetic quality – Although so similar to states of feeling, mystical states seem to those who experience them to be also states of knowledge. They are states of insight into the depths of truth unplumbed by the discursive intellect. They are illuminations, revelations, full of significance and importance … and as a rule they carry with them a curious sense of authority for after-time.
* Transiency – Mystical states cannot be sustained for long. Except in rare instances, half an hour, or at most an hour or two, seem to be the limit beyond which they fade into the light of common day.
* Passivity – Although the oncoming of mystical states may be facilitated by preliminary voluntary operations, as by fixing the attention, or going through certain bodily performances, or in other ways which manuals of mysticism prescribe; yet when the characteristic sort of consciousness once has set in, the mystic feels as if his own will were in abeyance, and indeed sometimes grasped by a superior power.
I believe that what I have experienced fits exactly into these criteria. I always used to go on to my close friends (and myself) that I could intellectually grasp how insignificant our daily problems are, the vastness of the cosmos, and our interconnectedness with all things, but I could never
feel it like so many mystics/wisemen/philosophers say. Now I can.
Although I still struggle to grasp whether all this around me that I see is real, or infact the sole reality (which I might add I am now convinced otherwise) I found comfort in some words that I had read on this forum a few weeks ago. They said that sometimes you get what you want from the spice, and other times, you get what you need. I had wanted to go into the experience and come out with some sort of knowledge or information. Instead, I found that I have been stripped of every knowledge and certainty that I had before, and my previous programming regarding my beliefs, standards, and perspectives have been completely demolished. In other words, I did not learned anything, but instead I UNLEARNED everything. I now believe that the action of the entity who was sucking the life out of me and brutaly cutting me to pieces speaking in a strange language of clicks, pops and other strange sounds represents this tearing down of old beliefs. Because of the overwhelmingly intense nature of the act, I was of course horrified at the time. Now, I am thankful for having the experience, however frightning it was. I find that as I wonder around about my daily business, I have a sense that everything here must be important for some reason, but I cannot help but find it hilarious. I look at the way we are all programmed and how the world is organized, from nature to society, and I seem to think it is all part of some sort of comedic theatrical play. I stumble around like a child in awe and wonder at everything as if I see it entirely in a new light. I have since gone from a pessimistic outlook at everything to a much more optimistic one based on wonder, indiference, and amazement.
DMTripper said:
@Eternity
Next time try to take another big toke and then just let go of yourself. Leave yourself in this world and leave this world behind.
Surrender to the experience.
I can't imagine how that is possible, but I understand exactly your reasoning and will try to apply it next time, however terrifying the idea sounds at the moment. I think I was completely caught off guard by the intensity of the whole thing and was less than adequately prepared to remain calm. Now however, I believe that the next time I cross over I will be less tempted to panic at what is happening to me and try to surrender and let go as you say.
jacetea said:
Just know that DMT gets better with use. You get accustomed to the time warping and reality melting. You are able to concentrate and calm yourself so it doesn't make you thrash around wildly.
Thanks for the support. I definitly need more practice to be able to remain calm and concentrate.
I do not know what everyone means by the jester, but each time I go in I see this strange being like a thin man with cylindrical body parts, huge eyes, and covered in stripes of various bright colors. He comes out of the kalidescopic room of colors and takes control of me, making strange noises, probing and playing with my soul with mind-numbing speed and enjoying it very much. I am always frightened by him (or them). Perhaps as I gain experience this fear will disapear and I will even be able to interact with him/it.
The shock and trauma are starting to wear off now, and I am returning to normal. My question is, when should I got back in? When do I know that I have intgrated everything and am ready for another journey? In any case, I hope to hell that the other side and all its inhabitants will go a bit easier on me next time.
