On STB re-x procedures

[Winemaker]

Hey guys, so I posted one thread a bit ago and this is kind of a different subject so I figured I'd do another thread.

So SWIM did an STB on ACRB. He ended up with a good amount of orangey-yellowey-browney goop.

That goop is expected to hold DMT oxide, DMT, NMT and plant fats.

He was thinking of performing a re-x on the whole pile, but was thinking of performing a redox on the oxide first. He was also thinking about doing a defat while he runs the acid redox though.

However, SWIM knows that NMT is soluble in NPS, but he is fine ending up with a full spectrum final product (actually thinks it would be really nice to have).

So how would SWIM best purify the goop, while maintaining the full-spectrum integrity?

Is NMT soluble in NPS when it's in an acid? As far as SWIM knows, it's only the DMT that salts.

Any information is greatly appreciated!

 

[Adjhart]

I may be wrong here, but as I understand it, you can't purify AND have full-spectrum. Purifying/re-x is essentially taking away from that spectrum.

It seems kind of self-defeating. ?

Hope this helps

 

[Winemaker]

Yeah.. That's kind of what I was thinking.

But okay how's this for a better question.. Can SWIM defat while still leaving the NMT in the mixture?

 

[Entheogenerator]

What makes you think your "goop" contains DMT n-oxide? Personally, I wouldn't even bother with the zinc reduction.

 

[Winemaker]

Well, the goop has been drying on jam jar caps for a while.. Some of the quantity has been sitting in a warm/hot cupboard for up to a month or two. It's been a long procedure.

But update.. SWIM processed a large amount of the goop. He combined distilled water and pure ascorbic acid, as well as 5% vinegar, getting to a ph of about 3.5 before stirring in the goop. The goop all dissolved and was clearly going thru the redox, because swim had to let it sit for a half hour in a hot water bath, because minute bubbles kept coming up, even after a thorough shake and stir.

He went thru the entire defat (pulled out a LOT of fats and assumed NMT) and then based. It turned really milky, and changed colour from a light green with a nice milky tint. It turned into a dark orange cream when based, and when he sucked out the naptha with an eye dropper, it was already milky, and was instantly precipping little bits when evapped by fan. He will continue with reduction of the solvent although it's clearly saturated at this point. It will go in for a freeze precip soon.

SWIM asked me to pass on thanks for all the help in the nexus. All he knows he gleaned from this wonderful place, and it's led to success! Now to finish up the process and get the rest of the stuff processed.

Speaking of which, will sodium carbonate base the liquid enough to convert to freebase? SWIM's running out of lye.

 

[DansMaTete]

Speaking of which, will sodium carbonate base the liquid enough to convert to freebase? SWIM's running out of lye.

Yes. You don't need to lyse cells so ph=11 is what you want. At this pH, 99,5% DMT is in freebase form. Iirc, your sodium carbonate has to be anhydre cause more bound with water molecule means lower pH in you solution.

 

[Winemaker]

Oh cool! I thought it was 12 at least. Thanks for saving the trouble