fnog9 said:
It will only accept God when it is completely broken, destroyed, and will no longer be able to resist God, realizing that God loved him all along.
You know, I sometimes feel sorry for this creature. God seems to be such an aggressive jerk.
This last lingering moment - after the defeat, before the dawn - can be quite beautiful though.
fnog9 said:
However, one must be extremely careful with this language. Tell a group of people that Satan must be destroyed, and what will they do? They'll go about killing people, making enemies of the hethens, maybe even kill themselves to try to kill Satan within. Who knows what they'll do. Just look at history and see all the kinds of things people have done. Or on the other hand they'll just think you're nuts. Satan? You idiot, Satan's not real, they'll say. But I agree, Satan is just a representation. Satan represents a certain spectrum of existence, and it's condensed down to one word, Satan. Hopefully, I'll find the right language without polarizing people.
Oh, I see now what your mean. You don't have to talk about these things to the common Christian. This is too heavy stuff for them. Transform your understanding down to their level, to things they understand. Shed light on the little things. I know that you are interested in the ultimate, but they are living their lives at the leaves (and only at the leaves). You shouldn't force this stuff on them.
What you want to do cannot be done through fighting this out with another man, anyway. It's a personal journey. The myths of Christianity are maps for navigating the inner territory. In a way, it is all psychology. You find that there are these immense forces inside and you want to find a satisfying solution to the equation. These forces compelled man to wage a continuous war against his neighbors. History can be seen as an unconscious expression of man's internal battle: the buildup of pressure, followed by eruption of the volcano, again and again. Our inability to find a solution, and our desperate search for it.
In a sense, this internal conflict is a driver of evolution. It drives us to find a way to integrate (better) or neutralize (worse) these forces. Think of the world cup, as a valve where this pressure can be let out. Or sexual freedom. Or capitalism (war on the market). Or the deconstruction of long-held traditions and values as a means to get rid of the threats they pose if they catch alight. The desensitization of the world on a massive scale (as depicted by the movie Equilibrium).
The tragedy is that with these attempts, the world undermines itself. What they sense as evil, bad and worthy of eradication is necessary for the healthy operation of the system. It shouldn't be erased, it should be understood. But this is a very frightening thing to do.
But with psychedelics, we can do it. We can understand darkness, in ourselves. There is no need to discuss with others. In the garment of Faith, you can descend into the palace of darkness. You can fulfill the story and reconnect the two poles into each other. And if you do that, then it changes everything.
I mentioned dark psytrance before. It may seem like a foreign thing in this context, but it is not. At least in my experience, dark psytrance makes it possible to invoke the dark forces in one's self and then connect them to the light. Here is the psychological process, as far as I can express it: you create a situation in the mind, where you can allow yourself to let out all the rage of the centuries (the evil), because there is another part in you which can "eat it all up" and convert it into peace. A good trance party is about building a machine which can convert shit to gold, switch it on at midnight and then everyone can pour all their shit into it. While pouring your shit to anywhere in the outside world is unacceptable behavior (you cannot kill anyone for instance, you have to tame your aggression), on such a trance party this is not only allowed, it is encouraged. Once you get a feel for the possibility then you open up and you REALLY GIVE ALL THE FUCK YOU CAN. This is very mysterious, that something which is seen as evil can be a food or a nourishment to something else. Sorry, I cannot really explain it, this is beyond words.
Perhaps you are prophets of the destination and we are prophets of the path that leads there. Now all we need is a satisfactory way to join this path to that end, so that everyone in the western world may understand how it works and can walk on it.)
