Oral DMT without MAOI?

[perraux]

I realize this won't produce any psychedelic effects. It will still introduce DMT to my body though (I've smoked it before in the past, so not for the first time or anything) and I've read that there are benefits to this.

Does it really produce no hallucinations at all, is it completely inert if done this way, or what happens if you decide to do it this way?

 

[Ernestine]

It will be quickly broken down by enzymes, particularly Monoamine oxidase (mao) into its metabolites, which are not psychoactive. You might as well take l-tryptophan, it would be cheaper.

 

[bk2492]

From my experience attempting to use methylene blue as an MAOI, it works for a few seconds and then it gets killed, i.e., methylene blue does not work as an MAOI. I thought MB would work and I assumed that I wasn't using enough MB and ACRB tea, so I ended up raising the doses of both very high and I eventually got a DMT trip that lasted a few seconds. At a later date I obtained P. harmala seeds and got potent effects from a fraction of the same batch of ACRB.

 

[sutekh_77]

Were I live many religions use the root bark of the jurema preta (mimosa hostilis) to make an assortment of beverages called vinho de jurema (jurema wine).

I've drink a couple of these beavares in religious settings, and even made my own version with cachaça (a sort of rum) and red wine, and they probably all have hefty doses of DMT in it, but no MAOI. I experienced no hallucinations at all just the alcoholic buzz.

However, I only consumed very moderate doses of these beverages and I heard that you can induce hallucinatory effects if you keep drink it in a short period of time. How much it's the DMT and how much it's just you getting drunk in a sugestive setting with drums, incense, people praying and chanting all around you I can't say.

Also MHRB is said to have hallucinogenic effects by itself:

Businessman’s Ayahuasca

Simple, single plant, short-acting oral DMT without the MAOI (or the vomiting and shitting).

alieninsect.substack.com

Summarizing the article above: multiple people attested that mimosa hostilis infusions can induce DMT-like trips even with no MAOI present. The theory it's that the bark has it's own built in MAOI or competitive inhibitors of MAO. In all these reports a simple cold infusion is made, no heat needed it. So maybe when we brew the bark it breaks down the MAOI present and you need to complement with another source?

I've tested the recipe from the article one night: 25 g of MHRB in cold infusion, waited about 1 hour and a half, filtered using a coffe filter. Drink it, waited a couple of hours, but I got no conclusive results. Sometimes I felt like I was about to trip, but in the end I think it was just the power self-suggestion.

Also mimosa hostilis (not DMT) is said to have antimicrobial, antioxidant, anti-inflammatory, antiparasitic and antifungal properties.