Peganum Harmala and a theory on the Key to spontaneous Mystical Illumination through increased sensitivity to endogenous DMT activation

[Panpsychic]

This is a theory or idea that I have not come across before, I could probably write some academic paper about it but I am lazy so I will just post it here, maybe someone can take it up.

So it occurred to me based upon a post on the below forum thread about  "Consuming harmalas for 40 days and 40 nights as a spiritual practice."

A Journey with harmalas, 40 days and nights

WARNING: Don't do this, I was very sick for a long time before I got my "Feet". It was worth it but please be aware of your own body and self and limitations. Consuming any psychoactive substances for 40 days straight has risks and some people might react badly,I am NOT recommending it for...

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Some of the fascinating accounts given in that report were that:

"I recently went through a journey where I took 400 milligrams of harmala alkaloids extracted from rue in salts, Daily over 40 days and 40 nights, Totaling 16 grams over the duration of the experience. The experience was intense and became stronger every 10 days. I experienced ego death, contact with entities, visions, dream worlds, out-of-body experiences, and black on black and white on white hallucinations. I felt as though I was experiencing an entirely different reality, one that was both beautiful and terrifying."

The practice of consuming harmalas over time is an ancient spiritual discipline I have heard of.

So it appears that there has been an accumulation of harmalas in the system over time, leading to ever increasing visionary effects, some of which are quite DMT like.


So this leads to the theory:

We know that MAOI'S render DMT more active and potent.

We also know that the body endogenously produces DMT.

Study provides evidence that DMT is produced naturally from neurons in the mammalian brain

New research published in Scientific Reports indicates that the rat brain is capable of synthesizing and releasing a powerful psychedelic drug called

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Peganum Harmala is one of the most Holy plants in existence, considered sacred in multiple historical religions.



So is this the missing key? If one consumes harmalas orally continuously, it accumulates over time and one's body system gradually sensitizes more and more to the presence of endogenous DMT, so one develops the ability of natural spontaneous mystical vision, especially if combined with meditation.


This may be one of the reasons why Harmala is Holy.

 

[Animistic]

I have not consumed anywhere near that amount on a daily basis but have consumed fairly solid doses (2-4g rue) consistently for a month or so every now and then. My experience is that sensitivity seems to increase in some ways and decrease in others, mostly in a beneficial direction (psychoactivity ++, body load --). It would get quite intense at times and Ive wondered/I've seen people talk on the Nexus about this too, whether the harmala potentiates endogenous tryptamines/alkaloids.

Would be interesting to see people doing dark meditations for long stretches of time, this would certainly affect melatonin which I believe I've read to be affected by harmalas.

Despite the strength of the harmalas power, I've never personally experienced anything that I would say was distinctively DMT and I think if it was a thing you'd get more people who take moclobemide (pharma maoi with little psychoactivity) experiencing more psychedelic effects. Afaik, this isn't the case. Though I would love to hear differently.

 

[Panpsychic]

Despite the strength of the harmalas power, I've never personally experienced anything that I would say was distinctively DMT and I think if it was a thing you'd get more people who take moclobemide (pharma maoi with little psychoactivity) experiencing more psychedelic effects. Afaik, this isn't the case. Though I would love to hear differently.

I don't know whether moclobemide works the exact same way even though it is an MAOI but also I don't think the amounts that one would take as a prescription drug are close to the amounts that one takes if using it in a visionary way for these effects to occur. For an accumulation over time it would need to exceed the amounts that the body is breaking down nightly which is exactly what a prescription dosage is designed not to do.

Again though, I have never heard a direct report of someone doing this practice for this length of time and never heard of such powerful visionary experiences. It seems feasible as an explanatory mechanism but we need more first person data to confirm also.

Maybe we should just get into smoking Harmala hash joints more regularly and drinking a nightly rue tea and see what happens. I definitely already noticed the well documented enhanced dream vividness and content and potential for oneironautic capacity from smoking the rue hash recently so maybe this is partly the link between what McKenna famously described as having a dream where he smoked DMT and having an actual trip happen.

 

[whatisred]

Among other reasons, peganum harmala is considered Holy is because it literally is. It is used to remove the effects of evil eye and purify oneself.
When I smoke it, it purifies me good, as evil eye tends to make one feel low - few rips of Peganum seeds works instantly almost always to make me feel light. And anti-evil eye is Pro-Holy when they burn Syrian rue incense to ward off evil, it's not symbolic - it actually is, but I don't know how it works to purify an environment as opposed to a human smoking it. Actually I don't even know how it works on a spiritual level when human smoke it, but I have my doubts that on the chemical side the lightness may be the result of the MAOI action on dopamine.

As for DMT dream trip - Nope nothing to do with Peganun Harmala. I only discovered Peganum years after I had a DMT dream trip and not only that, I was sober of pretty much everything except low dose caffeine for atleast 2-3 years leading upto the dream trip.

 

[Mylu]

I think the burning bush has been theorized to be peganum for many years in the psychedelic community..

 

[modern]

I take 100mg harmalas daily and have noticed a betterment in overall out-view of life. In the beginning I did increase dosage reaching as high as 1g harmalas however the 'experience' isn't anywhere enjoyable. I now get the humming and high at around 300mg-400mg range which with enough time you get use to it but taking that high a dose for 40 days straight would take quite some dedication. Never in my experimentation have I reached DMT level dreams or visuals during the day however I am naturally a very heavy sleeper and always have had deep vivid lucid dreams. The longer you take it the less body load there is and less chance of having the runs an nausea isn't as strong but especially for someone not too experienced with psychedelics the constant background noise and amplifying of any chemical you take might be a bit scary. I enjoy taking a few espressos and I've had great experience mixing with harmalas.

Now I take my tea shot in the morning... there are people that take it at night and say it induces lucid dreaming without actively practicing. I've not tried taking it at night but I've seen quite a few report benefits to dreaming... I wouldn't say dmt dream trip but more lucid active dreams.

 

[Mylu]

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Among other reasons, peganum harmala is considered Holy is because it literally is. It is used to remove the effects of evil eye and purify oneself.
When I smoke it, it purifies me good, as evil eye tends to make one feel low - few rips of Peganum seeds works instantly almost always to make me feel light. And anti-evil eye is Pro-Holy when they burn Syrian rue incense to ward off evil, it's not symbolic - it actually is, but I don't know how it works to purify an environment as opposed to a human smoking it. Actually I don't even know how it works on a spiritual level when human smoke it, but I have my doubts that on the chemical side the lightness may be the result of the MAOI action on dopamine.

As for DMT dream trip - Nope nothing to do with Peganun Harmala. I only discovered Peganum years after I had a DMT dream trip and not only that, I was sober of pretty much everything except low dose caffeine for atleast 2-3 years leading upto the dream trip.

This post intrigues me very much. Can you explain more about your conceptual experiences with the evil eye and how the rue helped to bring you to the light

 

[whatisred]

Firstly, post this post I experimented burning peganum seeds like an incense without consuming and can confirm it has the same positive spiritual effects.

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This post intrigues me very much. Can you explain more about your conceptual experiences with the evil eye and how the rue helped to bring you to the light

Well not only evil eye, any sorts of negative energy is purified by burning peganum. It's not conceptual, it's real, but one must be sensitive to it's effects which may be achieved by meditation and sister practices. Or on a decent dose of mushrooms/DMT, when the seeds are burnt, you may feel the effects such as lightness and positivity wash over you since psychedelics are famed for their body dissolution effect.