peyote dosages

[peyote]

mew respects the medicine, however mew does try to have full entheogenic experiences when the time is right, what might be called "tripping balls". however, the term is vastly inadequate to describe such an awesomely profound transformation. for a few years i abstained from entheogenic doses or seeking that experience. i refrained and was timid about dosing, it wasnt until a little over a year ago i started to not waver on my conviction that these experiences are essential to me, they provide me with an understanding of cosmic proportions, a personal relationship with the universe, a humbling ego dissolving refreshment, and joy!. i find that lower doses have thier use, but true entheogenic experiences are infinitely more valuable. as a result, i have become a seeker of those experiences in a respectful way.

i just dont think peyote should be anything but fully entheogenic as it is so valuable due to its slow growing and mostly illegal nature. it should not be squandered. that is respect.

peyote is medicine even when placed over a wound that is the magic of peyote

 

[Eliyahu]

mew wrote:

however mew does try to have full entheogenic experiences when the time is right, what might be called "tripping balls". however, the term is vastly inadequate to describe such an awesomely profound transformation

Yeah- tripping balls is so 1900's talk man! This here is the future where we trip like this^

 

[mew]

peyote is medicine even when placed over a wound that is the magic of peyote

would trichocereus not be?

 

[peyote]

peyote is medicine even when placed over a wound that is the magic of peyote

would trichocereus not be?

i dont know how to answer that without starting a flame war.

trich is one thing...peyote is on a whole different plane

 

[mew]

ill respect your opinion as your opinion. i have never put trichocereus on a wound for any reason. i know it has antibacterial properties when ingested, however its topical use is a mystery to me. quite honestly, i have methods for dealing with wounds anyway, having been trained in emergency medical services. when it comes to non life threatening injuries after they have stopped bleeding, im always up to learn more. as of now i clean a wound with ipa, then swab with h202, apply neosporin/antibacterial ointment with vitamins, gauze pad and tape. leave it covered for a few hours, give in an hour of being exposed to let it get necessary oxygen, recover, repeat. avoid long durations exposed to moisture (bathing, swimming) as it loosens the tissue and will most likely lead to tearing of the new flesh.


what about peyote is healing, besides it being energetically benevolent.


as far as peyote and trichs being on different planes, i might be more inclined to agree if some evidence was suggested.

 

[peyote]

ill respect your opinion as your opinion. i have never put trichocereus on a wound for any reason. i know it has antibacterial properties when ingested, however its topical use is a mystery to me. quite honestly, i have methods for dealing with wounds anyway, having been trained in emergency medical services. when it comes to non life threatening injuries after they have stopped bleeding, im always up to learn more. as of now i clean a wound with ipa, then swab with h202, apply neosporin/antibacterial ointment with vitamins, gauze pad and tape. leave it covered for a few hours, give in an hour of being exposed to let it get necessary oxygen, recover, repeat. avoid long durations exposed to moisture (bathing, swimming) as it loosens the tissue and will most likely lead to tearing of the new flesh.


what about peyote is healing, besides it being energetically benevolent.


as far as peyote and trichs being on different planes, i might be more inclined to agree if some evidence was suggested.

dried powdered buttons can be packed into open wounds to prevent infection and allow the wound to callus. - my point was that its value is not only as an consciousness altering substance. it is traditional medicine, i suppose it was used due to the severe lack of IPA, h2o2, neosporin ointment gauze and tape.

what evidence can i suggest to support something that is purely my opinion. I suggest you scarf some peyote and see the difference your self, it seems you are quite experienced with columnar peruvian cactus so i am almost positive you will immediately realize the difference

 

[mew]

i look forward to my first peyote feast.

also mhrb was used in the same way, powdered and packed into wounds to expedite thier healing and stop bleeding

 

[polytrip]

It´s hordenine, that´s responsible for this antibacterial effect. Maybe there are some unknown compounds as well. Could it be a combination of hordenine and the vasoconstrictive effects of the other alkaloids that causes it to heal wounds effectively?
Vasoconstriction could maybe prevent a wound to bleed excessively...i mean, i always wondered if the reason adrenalin has this property as well, is because when your body is preparing for a possible fight, it makes sense to shut the 'floodgates'.

 

[peyote]

dont know at all man...all i know is it works.

and that the trip varies quite a bit from trich

 

[polytrip]

dont know at all man...all i know is it works.

and that the trip varies quite a bit from trich

Yes, i agree with that. Peyote is much less foggy imo, then all of the torches.

 

[1664]

Peyote - Can you write a little about what you mean by "stressing" a cacti and how you would go about this to increase yield (assume before harvesting)? Thanks

ah, stressing a cactus means depriving it of water for long periods of time, getting the plant to that fine line where its tough love, and abuse.

also when the cactus endures some cold spells for a little bit of time. (not freezing, but say...38-45 degrees F) a couple of months out of the year with little sunlight and no water.

will make the alkaloid content shoot WAY up before harvesting

cactus in the wild often endure months of drought, then winters some times drop slightly above freezing, and have very little water which forces them into hybernation.

some cactus like bridge, and pedro...they can even survive a freeze

I have quite a few buttons all grown from one mother plant. I have harvested some already last year (dried out, waiting for the right time to take). I will harvest some more in the coming months and I should have enough then for a session.

So would you say grow as normal and then start the stressing process, say, 6 months before harvest? If cold dry spells force the alk content up, does that mean a harvest after a dry winter?

 

[peyote]

definately cant hurt but i would stress for like...1 year before to 2 yeas before

 

[SKA]

everyone always asks...no one ever knows...well here you go:

this is what i go by and it works


Mescaline dosages
150 mg Minimumdosis.
150 - 300 mg light to moderate dosage
300 - 400 mg strong trip last 6 - 12 hours
450 - 500 mg possible ego dissolution, trip will last about 12 hours
500 - 600 mg definite ego dissolution, trip can last up to 24 hours



As a general guidline 27 grams of dried Peyote contains about 300 mg of mescaline. This gives us the following table:

13.5 grams Minimumdosis.
13.5 - 27 grams light to moderate dosage
27 - 36 grams strong trip that lasts 6 - 12 hours
40.5 - 45 grams possible ego dissolution, trip will last about 12 hours
45 - 54 grams definite ego dissolution, trip can last up to 24 hours

54 grams of dried button ... thats like....wtf..

Bump!

I've been looking for this information for so long. I'm glad I've finally found it.
But I still have a question.

You would only know the dry weight of a peyote if you harvested & dried it. Could you estimate by the volume of a living Peyote cactus how much it would weigh if it was dried
out completely?

In other words...could you judge by the diameter & height of a live Peyote if ingesting it
would be sufficient to generate a strong entheogenic experience?

 

[Bezerker]

In other words...could you judge by the diameter & height of a live Peyote if ingesting it
would be sufficient to generate a strong entheogenic experience?

You could judge if you knew how potent your peyote was. Otherwise, its almost impossible to know unless its been bio-essayed or extracted (extracting peyote is a horrible waste IMO).

See below for more confusion.

From wikipedia:

The mescaline content of Lophophora williamsii is about 0.4% fresh[5] (undried) and 3-6% dried

From peyote:

As a general guidline 27 grams of dried Peyote contains about 300 mg of mescaline

27g(dried) at 3%-6% potency = 810mgs to 1620mgs

27g(fresh) at .4% potency = 108mgs



I think I'd believe Mr.peyote over wikipedia.

or my math is wrong.:?:

It also makes me wonder if the wikipedia info isn't based on pure mescaline content, but mixed alkaloid content. If thats the case, then both Mr.peyote and wikipedia are correct.

Just eat those buttons, you'll be OK. :shock: :shock:

 

[dg]

^wild grown plants may have been used in the wiki info

 

[SKA]

I'll soon buy some Peyotes to grow in the summer sun. I know a place where they sell decent Peyotes & Peyote clusters for 12 euros each. Might go there this week and pickup 1 or 2 of them.

Suppose I'll just have to give it a go carefully, drinking a little of Peyote Tea first, waiting 3 hours and
then decide if I'll have more Peyote tea or not.

So Peyotes' Mescaline content can vary quite wildly. Suppose I'd have a Peyote with a tragically low Mescaline content,
still... wouldn't drinking a tea prepared from a Peyote cactus roughly 5 centimeters high & 10 centimeters in diameter
be sufficient to induce a decent to strong Mescaline trip?

I would really like to get to finally experience Mescaline, but I am still a bit unfamiliar with how it's done.
I take it the older Peyotes are richer in Mescaline than the younger ones?
Doing away with the concept dosing in weight, is there anyone here with succesfull Peyote experiences who can tell me
what number of Peyotes to ingest? Is one big, halfway matured Peyote button(about 5 cm high & 10 cm in diameter) a proper, entheogenic dose? Or 2 Peyote buttons that are each half that size(for instance)?
Or does it GENERALLY take more than that?

Whoever here dosed Peyote succesfully before: how many buttons did you eat & approximately how big where they?
Please enlighten me. I've been meaning to experience Mescaline's splendor for so long now, but I don't want to waste a cactus I've spent more than 5 years growing so I want to be sure that I get it right the first time.