PsychonautCX
Rising Star
Calling all psychonauts/psychedelic explorers…
This is a call to the under-verse for exploration and comparative experience.
The point of this post is to explain a new method I have be working on to allow for a more cohesive navigation/exploration of sub-hyperspace realms by continuous small to medium vape pulls of a 1:1 combination of DMT to PEG400.
I would like to premise this by saying that at high doses (at the point where your open eyed visuals become distinctively affected or above) are NOT what this method refers to. This is about navigating the 2D/3D landscapes/systems that you encounter with your eyes closed on lower doses (10mg-20mg depending on your current method) and repeat dosing at those lower thresholds to keep your position constant, as opposed to letting the visuals fade away.
The result:
Movement and maneuvering various systems of both industrial and technical taking care to remain detached from them to allow observation and inspection without interaction.
My background:
With DMT alone (so not counting 5-meo/mdma/thc/lsd/psi) I have only had a couple upper level breakthrough type experiences. However I have had more sub breakthrough experiences than I care to admit. Take whatever number you may be thinking and it is way above that. Sometimes it’s purely for entertainment purposes, sometimes explorative, and other times for enlightenment. My biggest limiter with the spice is it’s short duration and the fact that Harmalas make me feel terrible at doses needed to be effective at extending the trip length.
My main method of use has always been a mesh atomizer, weighing and then trying to move it to the atomizer has always been tedious and redosing was nearly impossible. However a while back I came across some reliable methods for making DMT juice for use in vape tanks. This has completely changed how I explore.
DON’T STOP READING!!! This post isn’t about JUST vaping. It’s about a unique method for doing so that will yield some pretty interesting experiences. I would love others to try this method I’m going to lay out and post their experiences.
My setup:
I use an Aegis Max by GeekVape, with a Z Sub-ohm 2021 Tank. I used PEG400 in the amount of 1.5ml combined with 1.5g of white DMT crystals in a small 5ml glass vial with a rubber top. Stirred and lightly heated until dissolved. Then transferred to the tank. I set the air opening to about 1/4 open.
My method:
I started off at 13watts (the device registered the atomizer at 0.30ohms) and it was smooth. Maybe too smooth. I pressed and held for about two seconds. Then released. Pressed again and held. Put it to my lips and did a slow shallow inhale for 10 seconds. Released and repeated for another 10 seconds. You want to be able to get both hits in and still only be at around 70% lung capacity. This allows you the ability to top up your lungs with a few catch breaths if you feel like you need to exhale. Hold it as long as you can. At least a good 30 seconds from the end of the second pull. Then close yours eyes and see what you see. This is ONLY THE BEGINNING.
This is where is gets interesting:
The great thing about this setup is that you can keep traveling and retravelling without needing to remeasure or reload. I decided to bump the wattage up to 15-16w which produced an actual yet light throat hit but with much stronger effects.
So, after you have closed your eyes and you see whatever you see when things start to fade or if you don’t see anything just do another 10 second hit. Prime it for a quick second. Then hold, 10 seconds inhale, and hold it. You will experience something totally new and different than if you were to dose and then close your eyes. Redosing while your eyes are closed will lead you to new experiences.
My personal experiences:
There were times where on my initial dose I would see faint images or what looked like morphing art installations with what looked like humanoid beings in peripheral vision. Or I would see 2 dimensional scenes of what looked like I was watching anime or cartoons on a TV with my nose pressed against the screen. Sometimes I would see the front ends of a system control panel. One time I was being escorted somewhere and it was moving very slowly. I knew I wasn’t going to make it to my destination because especially at lower doses the visuals don’t last long. Sure enough everything started to fade to red and black. I then realized my vape was still in my hand. So I took another 10 second pull and everything came to life around me. The best way I can describe it was like in the scene in the original Tron, when Flynn touched the controls of the damaged Recognizer
I could feel a surge of energy and systems came to life, colors became vibrant, my vision cleared up and I saw very clearly a network of various system. Interconnected. I focused on one specifically because I saw what looked like branding. Like company logos and specific fonts. I tried to focus on the words but couldn’t get close enough to read them. I remember saying “get me closer so I can see! Closer CLOSER!” I then took another quick 5 second pull to try to make things even clearer.
When I did it was like I went up a level in terms of the flow of the system. Like where I was before that hit was at a control panel, but after that hit I was taken up the system to where that control panel and system was fed from. It was some sort of branching network of tubes with a langue I didn’t understand. They were had color coded labels. I moved past them and then to another area. It was a series of pipes, but more like grey rubber tubes. I could see labels on them referencing different things. Things like fruits and chocolate. I don’t know if they were smells, tastes, actual “food” of some sort but I remember thinking so THIS is where is comes from. Then I said “I want to see further”. I want to know about the company and the technology. But unfortunately that is as far as I was able to go.
I tried taking another hit, but instead of moving me further up the chain I accidentally got stuck. This happens from time to time depending on the size of the hit. It ends with me either interacting with the system in someway or simply fusing with something. When that happens I get buzzing feeling like touching a live wire, and the back of my neck starts to hurt or swell. Like I’m taking in lots of info or my neural network is being assimilated into the system which scared the bell out of me the first time it happened. I thought I was seeing my true form. Some kind of brain in a box. Like the matrix but instead of being used to generate heat/power my brain was being used along with others in some kind of neural network for some other purpose like a living computer.
So at that point I had two choices. Take another hit to try to pop myself out of the position I was stuck in, or open my eyes and end this trip. Normally I would have gone with option one. But I realized that for some reason I had tears running down my face. I then started to think about what I was seeing. That these systems existed for a reason. Perhaps they drove our simulation/reality, maybe a glimpse into tech of the future, or maybe I was peering into systems from other dimensions. Regardless it gave me some hope of possible existence beyond my short time in my current iteration. I then decided that if I wanted to continue this type of exploration I was going to need to do more work with harmalas to be able to extend my duration as these short bursts were exciting but left me unfulfilled.
My challenge to you:
I would love for others to replicate my method and see what you experience. I never used this setup with the intent to breakthrough. Only to be able to more finely control movement through the “Under-verse” as I refer to it. Once i took three full hits in one breath and before I could even realize what was happening I popped through into somewhere right on the edge of hyperspace. I know if I had exhaled and done one more hit. I would have taken off. But again, it’s all about the experience of using the vape to bounce yourself back. Then most important part is to never open your eyes when redosing. Feeling everything come to life around you and seeing the transitions is something everyone should experience.
This is a call to the under-verse for exploration and comparative experience.
The point of this post is to explain a new method I have be working on to allow for a more cohesive navigation/exploration of sub-hyperspace realms by continuous small to medium vape pulls of a 1:1 combination of DMT to PEG400.
I would like to premise this by saying that at high doses (at the point where your open eyed visuals become distinctively affected or above) are NOT what this method refers to. This is about navigating the 2D/3D landscapes/systems that you encounter with your eyes closed on lower doses (10mg-20mg depending on your current method) and repeat dosing at those lower thresholds to keep your position constant, as opposed to letting the visuals fade away.
The result:
Movement and maneuvering various systems of both industrial and technical taking care to remain detached from them to allow observation and inspection without interaction.
My background:
With DMT alone (so not counting 5-meo/mdma/thc/lsd/psi) I have only had a couple upper level breakthrough type experiences. However I have had more sub breakthrough experiences than I care to admit. Take whatever number you may be thinking and it is way above that. Sometimes it’s purely for entertainment purposes, sometimes explorative, and other times for enlightenment. My biggest limiter with the spice is it’s short duration and the fact that Harmalas make me feel terrible at doses needed to be effective at extending the trip length.
My main method of use has always been a mesh atomizer, weighing and then trying to move it to the atomizer has always been tedious and redosing was nearly impossible. However a while back I came across some reliable methods for making DMT juice for use in vape tanks. This has completely changed how I explore.
DON’T STOP READING!!! This post isn’t about JUST vaping. It’s about a unique method for doing so that will yield some pretty interesting experiences. I would love others to try this method I’m going to lay out and post their experiences.
My setup:
I use an Aegis Max by GeekVape, with a Z Sub-ohm 2021 Tank. I used PEG400 in the amount of 1.5ml combined with 1.5g of white DMT crystals in a small 5ml glass vial with a rubber top. Stirred and lightly heated until dissolved. Then transferred to the tank. I set the air opening to about 1/4 open.
My method:
I started off at 13watts (the device registered the atomizer at 0.30ohms) and it was smooth. Maybe too smooth. I pressed and held for about two seconds. Then released. Pressed again and held. Put it to my lips and did a slow shallow inhale for 10 seconds. Released and repeated for another 10 seconds. You want to be able to get both hits in and still only be at around 70% lung capacity. This allows you the ability to top up your lungs with a few catch breaths if you feel like you need to exhale. Hold it as long as you can. At least a good 30 seconds from the end of the second pull. Then close yours eyes and see what you see. This is ONLY THE BEGINNING.
This is where is gets interesting:
The great thing about this setup is that you can keep traveling and retravelling without needing to remeasure or reload. I decided to bump the wattage up to 15-16w which produced an actual yet light throat hit but with much stronger effects.
So, after you have closed your eyes and you see whatever you see when things start to fade or if you don’t see anything just do another 10 second hit. Prime it for a quick second. Then hold, 10 seconds inhale, and hold it. You will experience something totally new and different than if you were to dose and then close your eyes. Redosing while your eyes are closed will lead you to new experiences.
My personal experiences:
There were times where on my initial dose I would see faint images or what looked like morphing art installations with what looked like humanoid beings in peripheral vision. Or I would see 2 dimensional scenes of what looked like I was watching anime or cartoons on a TV with my nose pressed against the screen. Sometimes I would see the front ends of a system control panel. One time I was being escorted somewhere and it was moving very slowly. I knew I wasn’t going to make it to my destination because especially at lower doses the visuals don’t last long. Sure enough everything started to fade to red and black. I then realized my vape was still in my hand. So I took another 10 second pull and everything came to life around me. The best way I can describe it was like in the scene in the original Tron, when Flynn touched the controls of the damaged Recognizer
I could feel a surge of energy and systems came to life, colors became vibrant, my vision cleared up and I saw very clearly a network of various system. Interconnected. I focused on one specifically because I saw what looked like branding. Like company logos and specific fonts. I tried to focus on the words but couldn’t get close enough to read them. I remember saying “get me closer so I can see! Closer CLOSER!” I then took another quick 5 second pull to try to make things even clearer.
When I did it was like I went up a level in terms of the flow of the system. Like where I was before that hit was at a control panel, but after that hit I was taken up the system to where that control panel and system was fed from. It was some sort of branching network of tubes with a langue I didn’t understand. They were had color coded labels. I moved past them and then to another area. It was a series of pipes, but more like grey rubber tubes. I could see labels on them referencing different things. Things like fruits and chocolate. I don’t know if they were smells, tastes, actual “food” of some sort but I remember thinking so THIS is where is comes from. Then I said “I want to see further”. I want to know about the company and the technology. But unfortunately that is as far as I was able to go.
I tried taking another hit, but instead of moving me further up the chain I accidentally got stuck. This happens from time to time depending on the size of the hit. It ends with me either interacting with the system in someway or simply fusing with something. When that happens I get buzzing feeling like touching a live wire, and the back of my neck starts to hurt or swell. Like I’m taking in lots of info or my neural network is being assimilated into the system which scared the bell out of me the first time it happened. I thought I was seeing my true form. Some kind of brain in a box. Like the matrix but instead of being used to generate heat/power my brain was being used along with others in some kind of neural network for some other purpose like a living computer.
So at that point I had two choices. Take another hit to try to pop myself out of the position I was stuck in, or open my eyes and end this trip. Normally I would have gone with option one. But I realized that for some reason I had tears running down my face. I then started to think about what I was seeing. That these systems existed for a reason. Perhaps they drove our simulation/reality, maybe a glimpse into tech of the future, or maybe I was peering into systems from other dimensions. Regardless it gave me some hope of possible existence beyond my short time in my current iteration. I then decided that if I wanted to continue this type of exploration I was going to need to do more work with harmalas to be able to extend my duration as these short bursts were exciting but left me unfulfilled.
My challenge to you:
I would love for others to replicate my method and see what you experience. I never used this setup with the intent to breakthrough. Only to be able to more finely control movement through the “Under-verse” as I refer to it. Once i took three full hits in one breath and before I could even realize what was happening I popped through into somewhere right on the edge of hyperspace. I know if I had exhaled and done one more hit. I would have taken off. But again, it’s all about the experience of using the vape to bounce yourself back. Then most important part is to never open your eyes when redosing. Feeling everything come to life around you and seeing the transitions is something everyone should experience.
