POLL: has DMT changed you or your life? (DMT+MAOI included)

[ohayoco]

Please vote, then expand a little on how it has or hasn't changed your life.

[EDIT: Voyages prolonged by MAOI were intended to be included, so this poll is about freebase nn-DMT, pharmahuasca DMT+MAOI, and ayahuasca and analogues as long as DMT is included as the 'light'.
Ayahuasca or any other MAOI without DMT does not count here. Neither do combinations where DMT is not the 'main' source of visions, eg if mescaline, LSA, datura or 5-MEO etc is also added in significant amounts.
Traditional DMT admixtures such as chaliponga and chacruna count even though they may also contain other similar sources of light such as DMT N-oxide, but a pharmahuasca comprising of DMT N-oxide alone + MAOI doesn't count here.

Sorry for the confusion. Please elaborate in a comment when, for example, you have found DMT+MAOI useful but not freebase alone]

 

[ohayoco]

SWIM voted yes, for the better. DMT cured him of a lifelong meloncholy and a depressive episode. It erased his overly-negative thinking. He no longer has urges to 'get wasted' on booze (binge drinking was a problem of his for 20 years) or recreational drugs. He is now emotionally more stable. He has become more tolerent, more responsible and more respectful. He is now better able to grow emotionally as a person. He is even growing intellectually because he feels inspired to study. He now experiences profound moments of happiness, in marked contrast to before. Finally, he is now spiritually satisfied.

The only negative aspect to his awakening is that he is now a 'criminal' in the eyes of the law!

 

[bufoman]

I can not vote but would say yes for the better. My friend and I discussed this very topic the other day. I do not think that DMT can change you just by itself. It does not rewire your brain. It is the experience combined with set and setting that has the effects. This is true of anything, experiences influence the self. Although the experience idea is obvious I think a lot of it has to do with other factors as well. The nexus or DMT literature may even also play a large role in these changes. Expectations and interpretations influence the experience.

It certainly has showed me that reality is quite complex and that there are things which we can not understand. Also just the entire illusion of reality and the mind and that EVERY SINGLE ASPECT of ones world view is a chemically controlled construct of the brain. and the complete power of the brain. The beauty that can result from chemical stimulation is quite incredible.

I have also realized many personal thing while under the influence of our dear methylated friend regarding life and my personal interactions with others. I have taken some positive things away form these experiences. I learned to be more accepting and caring towards others. Be more open to others and enjoy your time spent with someone as they can one day disappear.

 

[Garulfo]

Could'nt tell it better than Bufoman...
I can not vote, what do I missing ?

 

[ohayoco]

The site seems to be having some problems right now, come back later and I'm sure you'll be able to vote then.

I learned to be more accepting and caring towards others. Be more open to others and enjoy your time spent with someone as they can one day disappear.

Exactly! I forgot that one... SWIM has also opened up to people, and appreciates life more.
But this revelation wasn't given to him by previous experiments with LSD and mushrooms. However, cactus does seem to have this effect too.

 

[burnt]

SWIM would have to say that other psychedelics have changed SWIMs life far more significantly then DMT. LSD for sure being the most important.

SWIM was thinking the other day does SWIM even like DMT? SWIM doesn't do it often probably only 20 times in the last couple years in various forms (pharm, aya, smoked) and neither way really has given SWIM any profound important earth shattering realizations. Its certainly intense and visually beautiful as well as emotionally moving. Maybe its because LSD and other psychedelics already taught SWIM what SWIM knows many times and DMT doesn't really add anything except more pretty colors. DMT also has given SWIM some really paranoid scary experiences that kind of turned SWIM off of the substance.

SWIM certainly hasn't given up on it and plans more experiments in the future but for now SWIM wouldn't mind if he never did DMT ever again really. Honestly SWIM is more interested in the neuroscientific implications of DMT and other endogenous tryptamines then in doing them these days.

What do ya'll think should SWIM give it another go?

 

[ohayoco]

Yeah, I'd say it's worth more experimentation. SWIM isn't sure if he actually enjoys the experience either. Sometimes he does, more often he's just "Errr this place is really weird, existence is not as I thought it"- the feeling of being in this alternate reality can be very unsettling sometimes. Then afterwards, when he's come down, he feels the love/excitement/vibrations.

The life-changing is not during the trip. there's little thinking involved during a smoked trip, but after. With aya then repressed problems and realisations do emerge, to be worked on in sober life. SWIM has never tried pharma- DMT+THH- but is looking forward to one day.

It feels like a chemical change to him... but then an emotional change IS a chemical change anyway. LSD and shrooms opened his mind to possibilities and ripped apart preconceptions, but didn't cause emotional changes. The reverence that DMT instills is another unique experience in his eyes.

 

[69ron]

I had to vote no for SWIM. For him, the DMT experience is just too short to have much of an impact on him. When it’s over, it’s like waking from a dream and it’s easily forgotten. Ayahuasca on the other hand has had a huge impact on him.

 

[ohayoco]

Sorry, I meant for ayawaska to be included as 'DMT'. I'll clarify.

If this poll is promising then we could maybe one day start new ones for freebase alone, pharmahuasca and ayahuasca, to go into finer detail.

 

[Aegle]

I voted yes even though I have only had natural DMT extract once. DMT has grounded me in such a way that no other natural entheogen has and I have been journeying for seven years or so. Cactus heals me mentally and physically, LSA teaches me through pure visions and lets me be childlike again, Mushrooms connect me with myself and allow me to discover myself while opening me up, questions linger that always leave me pondering.

Where as DMT not only connects me with myself but makes me my true self. My true self which existed before all my parents influence and the harsh influence of the world, DMT really brings me to the core of myself and shows pure warmth, kindness and compassion, asking nothing in return. I love each entheogen deeply and have a great connection with each one but I can feel that DMT is going to be a completely different plateau.

Apparently DMT likes water for some reason, I have a deep connection with water and the sea. I'm a water sign and Ive always had an affinity with water even when I was really small I was in water constantly a total water baby. I am looking forward to my next journey so much I cant even explain how much but I want to take this journey slow and with the utmost respect and compassion.


Much Peace and Sunshine

 

[pinche]

Yes,for the better.Mainly ayahuasca. For exactly the same reasons as ohayoco. I would add that its not like a one shot miracle cure but a gradual process for me.But when i look back at how i was before its unrecognizable.There are still peaks and troughs but now there are more and higher peaks with fewer and more shallow troughs.

 

[Bancopuma]

Interesting responses people.

I can't really say DMT has changed me or my life - yet anyway. I think ayahuasca holds much more potential for this change, and I ALWAYS feel positive after drinking the vine, but I haven't had the experience yet...I will return to ayahuasca later. In the past when I drink (and I've drank out in Peru), ayahuasca is always shallow and playful with me...I know there is an ocean of deep, earthy mystery out there, yet aya only lets me play in the shallow end every time...

Smoking DMT or freebase DMT orally is very intense, but I can't say I've had an life changing/shattering insights. The experience is amazing and beautiful - while it is happening - but after a very short time, its fading and it evaporates, feeling like a dream, and I can only remember fragments and glimpses...it seems a bit too much to allow integration. My experiences with mushrooms, cactus and LSD have all surpassed DMT in this respect, and with the insights and experiences I have gained from them. I can't say I have felt the joy/cosmic love/bliss feelings on DMT that I have felt on these other substances either, although I appreciate when questing for knowledge, positive, happy-clappy feelings aren't always the name of the game by any means. Its strange though DMT, on a high dose, smoked, I get quite menacing vibes...cold and alien...doesn't feel welcoming...VERY different from mushrooms or cactus in this regard.

Changa on the other hand is quite amazing, and an area I would like to expand into a bit more...

So yeah DMT is certainly powerful, and beautiful, but I can't say I have had my breakthrough or life altering experience with it - yet. Maybe I would have a different opinion if I didn't use other psychedelics.

 

[Buster]

please excuse my numb nuttedness folks. i ment to vote for changed me for the better hehe silly me.

 

[ohayoco]

please excuse my numb nuttedness folks. i ment to vote for changed me for the better hehe silly me.

That's alright. Did you vote 'for the worse' by accident? Haha I got a shock when I saw that so I hope it was you! :lol:

the DMT experience is just too short to have much of an impact on him. When it’s over, it’s like waking from a dream and it’s easily forgotten. Ayahuasca on the other hand has had a huge impact on him.

69Ron, are you a yes now I've clarified that aya+DMTadmixture is included? If so are you a 'yes for the better' or just a 'yes neither for better nor worse'?

 

[Ginkgo]

Hmm, why can't I vote?

Never mind, silly me didn't understand that I had to click the text. DMT has without any doubt changed me for the better, but then I am mainly talking about Ayahuasca. I can have some great journeys on smoked DMT, but the short duration makes it impossible to do some real progress, for me atleast.

 

[kemist]

I cannot say because I never tried such a drug, but ILPT voted for: `Yes, to better`

However that profundity never last for more then month or three and more spice need to be smoke to remind ILPT what was the source of his new better himself
Also the positive thoughts and such a good mood he has only after smoking the white stuff!
Jungle stuff make him see too much swirling and twisting and it`s sometimes a bit scary!
White stuff make his trip full of bright light and bliss and he always feel good after such an experience
He hasn`t tried strong ayahuasca or pharmahuasca because he is not able to arrange good setting for strong trip, so he cannot say yet.

But that`s all only what ILPT said guys, I don`t know what are those things about. I would like to extract liquorice

Throughout Italy unsweetened liquorice is consumed in the form of small black pieces made only from 100% pure liquorice extract; the taste is bitter and intense.

does anybody has recipe for this? Any Italian fella round here?. I harvested loads of liquorice and fancy those italian`s candy! Please Help...

 

[69ron]

the DMT experience is just too short to have much of an impact on him. When it’s over, it’s like waking from a dream and it’s easily forgotten. Ayahuasca on the other hand has had a huge impact on him.

69Ron, are you a yes now I've clarified that aya+DMTadmixture is included? If so are you a 'yes for the better' or just a 'yes neither for better nor worse'?

Ayahusca allowed SWIM to see GOD for the first time ever. He was an atheist before that. So yes, it changed him for the better, that's for sure.

 

[bufoman]

SWIM saw jesus on a high dose once however SWIM believes this to be an artifact of the mind rather than a true reality although this is a topic for another thread. SWIM thought it was strange and that if he was a lot of other types of people he would have interpreted it in the wrong way. The very image is a cultural imprinted one as are these notions. SWIM has seen many crazy and bizarre beings that he does not think are real existing entities. DMT and other hallucinogens act on regions of the CNS involved in complex conscious perception. I would be weary of interpreting things as real while under the influence of DMT or any other hallucinogen.

Regarding god I admit that there is no way that I or anyone else could possible know for sure. Atheism is just as naive as religion in my opinion. One thing I learned from DMT is that reality is much stranger and complex than it is possible for us to imagine. This notion of a watchmaker god is a human cultural artifact. It is comforting and serves a social purpose for many people however based on all other observations of nature it is highly unlikely. Buddha had it right when he said that there is no way that anyone could know the answer to the question of god.

 

[Aegle]

Buddha had it right when he said that there is no way that anyone could know the answer to the question of god.

Indeed it seems there is no straight answer, the more questions i ask and the deeper i go, more questions arise :lol:


Much Peace

 

[Aegle]

I cannot say because I never tried such a drug, but ILPT voted for: `Yes, to better`

However that profundity never last for more then month or three and more spice need to be smoke to remind ILPT what was the source of his new better himself
Also the positive thoughts and such a good mood he has only after smoking the white stuff!
Jungle stuff make him see too much swirling and twisting and it`s sometimes a bit scary!
White stuff make his trip full of bright light and bliss and he always feel good after such an experience
He hasn`t tried strong ayahuasca or pharmahuasca because he is not able to arrange good setting for strong trip, so he cannot say yet.

But that`s all only what ILPT said guys, I don`t know what are those things about. I would like to extract liquorice

Throughout Italy unsweetened liquorice is consumed in the form of small black pieces made only from 100% pure liquorice extract; the taste is bitter and intense.

does anybody has recipe for this? Any Italian fella round here?. I harvested loads of liquorice and fancy those italian`s candy! Please Help...

Its wierd swim has only had the natural extracted spice with jungle and the DMT. Swim likes the feeling of the DMT with the jungle swim feels that they are meant to be togeather. The jungle seems to have a slightly more playful element and the DMT seems to bring the magic.

I love liquorice to so yip i would love to see the recipe to


Much Peace