Although there are many ways to obtain freebase jungle it seems far too often the last step is the dreaded evaporation of limonene or xylene.
SWIM has some jungle goo (200mg) around and he was testing it out. 4ml of limonene seemed to barely dissolve any at all, even when heated in a water bath.
SWIM then tried using simple tap water, that worked well! of the probably 190-175mg left it, all the liquid was dissolved leaving some odd, non-psychoactive solids.
(it's a goo, maybe it was just dust)
SWIM then evaporated the water a room temp and it yielded a completely clear red/orange goo which when smoked produced the very typical jungle visuals and the wonderful headspace. The limonene was evaporated and yielded the same, albeit much less, product.
So extraction-wise. Though acetone and iso can be used to pull jimjam mixes, water will pull only the jungle.
SWIM was thinking that he would keep it food safe and:
-Use limonene to pull bark that has been depleted of white freebase.
-Use vinegar to salt out the alkaloids from the limonene
-take the vinegar and create a paste by adding some lime.
(the said jungle from the top experiment was obtained by adding limonene to the paste, mixing, filtering and evaporating)
-then hot tap water will be mixed through the paste, poured off and filter.
hopefully that will yield only freebase jungle and tiny traces of lime when evaporated,
if not then a small amount of limonene would have to added first to the pinky-lime/jimjam paste to pick up the impurities.
If that is the case then it would be easy to separate the limonene after since the limonene floats
Of course this is a TIME shortcut, not a work shortcut.
After that hot naptha can be used to pull the N-N-DMT-oxide for a full alkaloid mix, seperated.
Just a theory. of course FASA or FASI could be used to precipitate the alkaloids as well SWIM thinks, but he's never done it.
There may be a shorter way, SWIM's just pondering after discovering the solubility. SWIM will likely just create a tincture out of the acetate salts for pharma most of the time, this is just if freebase is needed.
SWIM has some jungle goo (200mg) around and he was testing it out. 4ml of limonene seemed to barely dissolve any at all, even when heated in a water bath.
SWIM then tried using simple tap water, that worked well! of the probably 190-175mg left it, all the liquid was dissolved leaving some odd, non-psychoactive solids.
(it's a goo, maybe it was just dust)
SWIM then evaporated the water a room temp and it yielded a completely clear red/orange goo which when smoked produced the very typical jungle visuals and the wonderful headspace. The limonene was evaporated and yielded the same, albeit much less, product.
So extraction-wise. Though acetone and iso can be used to pull jimjam mixes, water will pull only the jungle.
SWIM was thinking that he would keep it food safe and:
-Use limonene to pull bark that has been depleted of white freebase.
-Use vinegar to salt out the alkaloids from the limonene
-take the vinegar and create a paste by adding some lime.
(the said jungle from the top experiment was obtained by adding limonene to the paste, mixing, filtering and evaporating)
-then hot tap water will be mixed through the paste, poured off and filter.
hopefully that will yield only freebase jungle and tiny traces of lime when evaporated,
if not then a small amount of limonene would have to added first to the pinky-lime/jimjam paste to pick up the impurities.
If that is the case then it would be easy to separate the limonene after since the limonene floats
Of course this is a TIME shortcut, not a work shortcut.
After that hot naptha can be used to pull the N-N-DMT-oxide for a full alkaloid mix, seperated.
Just a theory. of course FASA or FASI could be used to precipitate the alkaloids as well SWIM thinks, but he's never done it.
There may be a shorter way, SWIM's just pondering after discovering the solubility. SWIM will likely just create a tincture out of the acetate salts for pharma most of the time, this is just if freebase is needed.
