NOTE: WHILE THIS DID WORK, IT WAS VERY LOW YIELDING AND NOT A VERY GOOD WAY TO GET CRYSTAL DMT.
SWIM has posted his findings (based on blueskine's original concept) about converting DMT and Full spectrum "jimjam" into pure smokable freebase recently.
Until now it was only based on the solubility in water and effects from smoking, now there is POSITIVE PROOF.
Experiment:
Goal: Pull freebase DMT with naptha from heated/freebased acetates and freezer precipitate them.
SWIM evaporated his one of his acetate tinctures containing ~480mg of jimjam in 25ml water and 5 ml vinegar.
The method of evaporation was a flat-bottom dish suspended over simmering water (7 setting on his stove)
While the water was almost gone the red goo smelled strongly of vinegar.
The dish continued to be heated over the simmering water until the vinegar smell seemed to be almost gone.
SWIM was worried that putting the dish over full-boiling water may create a loss of product, SWIM knows that the boiling point of freebase DMT is slightly above 100C
(it is recorded as 60-80C but this is completely false, freebase DMT can survive in boiling water, SWIM has tested it)
Anyway, because of that SWIM felt he'd try his first pull while the mix still smelled slightly of vinegar.
~5-7ml (eyeballed) of naptha was added and mixed with a fingertip, it was poured into a shot glass where it immediately started clouding. SWIM put it in the freezer.
Meanwhile the pot was put under MAX heat. For about 15 minutes the dish was heated and with a quick sniff, no vinegar was smelled, only a faint smell of DMT
(not dmt smoke, but plain DMT smell)
~15ml (eyeballed) was added and mixed with a fingertip again (it was quite hot)
The shot glass in the freezer had yet to crystallize but was very cloudy, SWIM added the 15ml over the original naptha.
The remainder was 200-225mg (goo is hard to measure) of jungle freebase which was just barely dissolved in 20ml of warm vinegar. (Jungle seems much less soluble than jimjam)
Now about 30 minutes later the naptha looks like this:
White freebase DMT. The end yield was 72mg, this could be a loss of yield, or maybe during the use of the partially dissolved tincture he skewed the concentration. Also there were small impurities seen in the goo.
SWIM knows that jungle will not vaporize when exposed to hot steam, though some of the N-N-DMT and/or N-N-DMT-oxide may have vaporized.
SWIM will experiment with the next batch and measure the goo before, then place over a MAX pot for 30 minutes and re-measure.
Theoretical Q/A
SWIY says:
So.... What does this mean? Do I have to use naptha in my extractions? ....I don't get it.
SWIM says:
This is purely proof that heating DMT acetate to 100C freebases the DMT into a pure and smokable product without the need for any solvents (apart from the initial use of limonene)
In the past this meant messy procedures using sodium carbonate with poor yields and brown end-products. Now all that is needed is a pot and a container that can withstand steam.
There is no need to separate the products like SWIM did, the goo is pure freebase smokable jimjam which can be dissolve in vinegar or another acid (and mixed with something for taste) for pharma. Or mixed with a minimal amount of vinegar for lingahuasca.
SWIY says:
So where do I get a tincture with jimjam acetates......
SWIM says:
That was made by a similar method.
using d-limonene to extract the jimjam off of basified MHRB.
Then the limonene is separated.
25ml of vinegar is added to the limonene (vinegar sinks under limonene) it is then shaken well for 5 minutes.
The bottom vinegar is separated and then evaporated indirectly over boiling water to yield a red goo.
SWIM's tincture was made my measuring and re-dissolving the leftover goo into vinegar and water (need 1ml 5% vinegar for ~150mg of DMT, SWIM guesstimates, 50/50 should work)
Though there is no need to do that if you want a smokable product, the leftover goo will be smokable freebase if it is heated until it no longer smells of vinegar, just like above.
SWIY say:
(Dunno, SWIM writes so he understands it and tends to leave out info, feel free to post a question)
SWIM has posted his findings (based on blueskine's original concept) about converting DMT and Full spectrum "jimjam" into pure smokable freebase recently.
Until now it was only based on the solubility in water and effects from smoking, now there is POSITIVE PROOF.
Experiment:
Goal: Pull freebase DMT with naptha from heated/freebased acetates and freezer precipitate them.
SWIM evaporated his one of his acetate tinctures containing ~480mg of jimjam in 25ml water and 5 ml vinegar.
The method of evaporation was a flat-bottom dish suspended over simmering water (7 setting on his stove)
While the water was almost gone the red goo smelled strongly of vinegar.
The dish continued to be heated over the simmering water until the vinegar smell seemed to be almost gone.
SWIM was worried that putting the dish over full-boiling water may create a loss of product, SWIM knows that the boiling point of freebase DMT is slightly above 100C
(it is recorded as 60-80C but this is completely false, freebase DMT can survive in boiling water, SWIM has tested it)
Anyway, because of that SWIM felt he'd try his first pull while the mix still smelled slightly of vinegar.
~5-7ml (eyeballed) of naptha was added and mixed with a fingertip, it was poured into a shot glass where it immediately started clouding. SWIM put it in the freezer.
Meanwhile the pot was put under MAX heat. For about 15 minutes the dish was heated and with a quick sniff, no vinegar was smelled, only a faint smell of DMT
(not dmt smoke, but plain DMT smell)
~15ml (eyeballed) was added and mixed with a fingertip again (it was quite hot)
The shot glass in the freezer had yet to crystallize but was very cloudy, SWIM added the 15ml over the original naptha.
The remainder was 200-225mg (goo is hard to measure) of jungle freebase which was just barely dissolved in 20ml of warm vinegar. (Jungle seems much less soluble than jimjam)
Now about 30 minutes later the naptha looks like this:
White freebase DMT. The end yield was 72mg, this could be a loss of yield, or maybe during the use of the partially dissolved tincture he skewed the concentration. Also there were small impurities seen in the goo.
SWIM knows that jungle will not vaporize when exposed to hot steam, though some of the N-N-DMT and/or N-N-DMT-oxide may have vaporized.
SWIM will experiment with the next batch and measure the goo before, then place over a MAX pot for 30 minutes and re-measure.
Theoretical Q/A
SWIY says:
So.... What does this mean? Do I have to use naptha in my extractions? ....I don't get it.
SWIM says:
This is purely proof that heating DMT acetate to 100C freebases the DMT into a pure and smokable product without the need for any solvents (apart from the initial use of limonene)
In the past this meant messy procedures using sodium carbonate with poor yields and brown end-products. Now all that is needed is a pot and a container that can withstand steam.
There is no need to separate the products like SWIM did, the goo is pure freebase smokable jimjam which can be dissolve in vinegar or another acid (and mixed with something for taste) for pharma. Or mixed with a minimal amount of vinegar for lingahuasca.
SWIY says:
So where do I get a tincture with jimjam acetates......
SWIM says:
That was made by a similar method.
using d-limonene to extract the jimjam off of basified MHRB.
Then the limonene is separated.
25ml of vinegar is added to the limonene (vinegar sinks under limonene) it is then shaken well for 5 minutes.
The bottom vinegar is separated and then evaporated indirectly over boiling water to yield a red goo.
SWIM's tincture was made my measuring and re-dissolving the leftover goo into vinegar and water (need 1ml 5% vinegar for ~150mg of DMT, SWIM guesstimates, 50/50 should work)
Though there is no need to do that if you want a smokable product, the leftover goo will be smokable freebase if it is heated until it no longer smells of vinegar, just like above.
SWIY say:
(Dunno, SWIM writes so he understands it and tends to leave out info, feel free to post a question)
