69ron said:
well another thing we have to think about is that PURE..like absolutely pure dmt is not solid at room temp...at least that is what benzyme has hinted at...
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well another thing we have to think about is that PURE..like absolutely pure dmt is not solid at room temp...at least that is what benzyme has hinted at...
May work, but I would suggest doing the gelatin tec instead. In my experience it is much better at removing tannins.spork said:
narmz
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69ron said:
Just curious, cause I've seen the pics of the heptane recrystallization, both freeze precipped and room-temp crystal growth, both of those seem to be very solid, not waxy at all(and they don't seem to degrade to a waxy or melted substance), are those impure in some way?
69ron
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Appearance can be misleading.
Very pure DMT looks like shards of glass, very beautiful, but if you touch it, they get smashed like wax rather than breaking apart like glass. Pure bufotenine looks almost the same, like shards of glass, but they are very brittle and break like glass when touched.
Very pure DMT looks like shards of glass, very beautiful, but if you touch it, they get smashed like wax rather than breaking apart like glass. Pure bufotenine looks almost the same, like shards of glass, but they are very brittle and break like glass when touched.
just to add to this thread...for shits and giggles i added 15 DROPS of acetone to about 100mg of the HOPEFULLY dmt freebase that was collected from this technique and it was absorbed by the acetone almost instantly.....10 seconds tops...
Im having troubles with this method..
was trying to test the difference between FASI+freebasing with this vinegar+evap-base conversion... so the first to pulls were divided, half in each method. But this acetate is taking already over a day evapping.. The first part evapped quick but when it arrived at the end when its this ruby coloured goo, it doesnt seem to progress much. Im evapping with the setting at 110degrees C in the oven, but with the door open and fan turned towards it.. I suspect it must be more like around 60c or so, because I can still hold the glass without burning my hand.
I dont want to waste all the energy of the world for this... and specially, Im affraid to be ruining the dmt with these black parts that are forming on the scrapped parts, notice:
Im wondering if I should just abort this freebase evap conversion and go for sodium carbonate freebase because I could do it now already and not waste so much energy and not risk destroying the dmt
was trying to test the difference between FASI+freebasing with this vinegar+evap-base conversion... so the first to pulls were divided, half in each method. But this acetate is taking already over a day evapping.. The first part evapped quick but when it arrived at the end when its this ruby coloured goo, it doesnt seem to progress much. Im evapping with the setting at 110degrees C in the oven, but with the door open and fan turned towards it.. I suspect it must be more like around 60c or so, because I can still hold the glass without burning my hand.
I dont want to waste all the energy of the world for this... and specially, Im affraid to be ruining the dmt with these black parts that are forming on the scrapped parts, notice:
Im wondering if I should just abort this freebase evap conversion and go for sodium carbonate freebase because I could do it now already and not waste so much energy and not risk destroying the dmt
Your problem seems to stem from the impurities you mentioned in your vinegar.
300+ml of vinegar can be evaporated and freebased with heat in just a matter of a few hours.
Everyone: MAKE SURE YOUR VINEGAR IS JUST WATER AND ACETIC ACID, NO IMPURITIES!
300+ml of vinegar can be evaporated and freebased with heat in just a matter of a few hours.
Everyone: MAKE SURE YOUR VINEGAR IS JUST WATER AND ACETIC ACID, NO IMPURITIES!
it is messy initially, SWIM bought a 1.25 cheap frying pan and a ceramic dish that fits perfectly with only 1cm between it and the pan, he filled it with OIL and now used that, it takes 20-25 minutes for 50ml to evaporate.
but the newest breakthrough is to be posted soon.
As much as this seems like a lot of work, this is taking the measuring of a dose before smoking completely out of the equation. ]
The first time SWIM tried this it took 25 seconds or so to evaporate, 10 seconds to scrape and put in the bowl and 15 seconds to take 2 huge tokes and the bowl was cleaned. The product is so pure he almost completely broke through on 5 drops! (18.75mg)
If you have a 60ml tincture bottle you can have it hold over 4 grams of pre-measured all-purpose DMT. (SWIM has 6 he got off Ebay for under 10 dollars.)
but the newest breakthrough is to be posted soon.
As much as this seems like a lot of work, this is taking the measuring of a dose before smoking completely out of the equation. ]
The first time SWIM tried this it took 25 seconds or so to evaporate, 10 seconds to scrape and put in the bowl and 15 seconds to take 2 huge tokes and the bowl was cleaned. The product is so pure he almost completely broke through on 5 drops! (18.75mg)
If you have a 60ml tincture bottle you can have it hold over 4 grams of pre-measured all-purpose DMT. (SWIM has 6 he got off Ebay for under 10 dollars.)
The Wizard said:holy crap it worked....i had some freebase jimjam lying around..so i put about 100mg in some vinegar...and then evaporated the vinegar...left it on the heat until i couldnt smell acetic acid anymore...and then took it off the heat...and let it sit overnight...when i looked at it this morning i see freebase dmt crystals spreading across the glass
and yea there are a few particles of dust there...
That's amazing, I think if SWIM performed this, I don't know,my gut instinct says that the DMT would evaporate. SWIMS DMT Evaporates even when he's just heating some naptha at about ~70*C, you can smell it coming right out of solution and vaporising before the rest of it has even dissolved!! So, How you managed to boil off some vinegar and keep the freebase in the pan, I have NO idea.
Somone explain this to me?
shoe said:The Wizard said:holy crap it worked....i had some freebase jimjam lying around..so i put about 100mg in some vinegar...and then evaporated the vinegar...left it on the heat until i couldnt smell acetic acid anymore...and then took it off the heat...and let it sit overnight...when i looked at it this morning i see freebase dmt crystals spreading across the glass
and yea there are a few particles of dust there...
That's amazing, I think if SWIM performed this, I don't know,my gut instinct says that the DMT would evaporate. SWIMS DMT Evaporates even when he's just heating some naptha at about ~70*C, you can smell it coming right out of solution and vaporising before the rest of it has even dissolved!! So, How you managed to boil off some vinegar and keep the freebase in the pan, I have NO idea.
Somone explain this to me?
I've been farting around with this conversion and it just isnt happening. I can see and smell my spice going up the ehuast hood. I would suggest sticking with sodium carbonate freebase conversion.
This tek needs to be refined and proven allot more by somebody that knows what he's doing allot better than me.
I guess each one needs to find for themselves if this tek works.. Im happy you are exploring these untreaded areas, q21, but for me this just isnt working, seems for ice house shaman neither, so I think its important that people are aware it might not work for all...
for those interested, still worth a try though, and tell us back if it worked. I'll go for the sodium carbonate conversion. I wonder how much dmt should one expect from the first two pulls of 400 grams mimosa, so that I add a more or less correct amount of herbs to infuse.
for those interested, still worth a try though, and tell us back if it worked. I'll go for the sodium carbonate conversion. I wonder how much dmt should one expect from the first two pulls of 400 grams mimosa, so that I add a more or less correct amount of herbs to infuse.
Ice House Shaman, what was in your vinegar? Was it pure?
۩ said:shoe said:The Wizard said:holy crap it worked....i had some freebase jimjam lying around..so i put about 100mg in some vinegar...and then evaporated the vinegar...left it on the heat until i couldnt smell acetic acid anymore...and then took it off the heat...and let it sit overnight...when i looked at it this morning i see freebase dmt crystals spreading across the glass
and yea there are a few particles of dust there...
That's amazing, I think if SWIM performed this, I don't know,my gut instinct says that the DMT would evaporate. SWIMS DMT Evaporates even when he's just heating some naptha at about ~70*C, you can smell it coming right out of solution and vaporising before the rest of it has even dissolved!! So, How you managed to boil off some vinegar and keep the freebase in the pan, I have NO idea.
Somone explain this to me?
Call me a mongo but that didn't actually even impact on the surface. :s
Why is it heating DMT Acetate converts it to freebase, but heating DMT fumarate and or Freebase (dry or in solution) vaporises it?
There is definately no loss into the atmosphere? SWIM might have to try this!
Big Inhale
The Enlightend One
Tried the link but access was denied. Anyonne know why?shoe said:۩ said:shoe said:The Wizard said:holy crap it worked....i had some freebase jimjam lying around..so i put about 100mg in some vinegar...and then evaporated the vinegar...left it on the heat until i couldnt smell acetic acid anymore...and then took it off the heat...and let it sit overnight...when i looked at it this morning i see freebase dmt crystals spreading across the glass
and yea there are a few particles of dust there...
That's amazing, I think if SWIM performed this, I don't know,my gut instinct says that the DMT would evaporate. SWIMS DMT Evaporates even when he's just heating some naptha at about ~70*C, you can smell it coming right out of solution and vaporising before the rest of it has even dissolved!! So, How you managed to boil off some vinegar and keep the freebase in the pan, I have NO idea.
Somone explain this to me?
Call me a mongo but that didn't actually even impact on the surface. :s
Why is it heating DMT Acetate converts it to freebase, but heating DMT fumarate and or Freebase (dry or in solution) vaporises it?
There is definately no loss into the atmosphere? SWIM might have to try this!
