Psilohuasca/anahuasca combo help

[maranello551]

Hey guys. Me again.
So....SWIM was looking to do psilohuasca (rue+cubes) and boost it with a shot of acacia confuse tea this weekend. How can he make this happen?

If he easts the mushrooms after the rue and then adds the acacia to that, won't he purge the mushrooms before they are fully broken down and processed?

How long does it take a mushroom tea to take full effect (as in not be wasted if thrown up)?

Should he just eat rue, and mix his mushroom tea with the acacia tea and take it as one blend?

Or should he: 1. take the rue
2. take the mushroom tea (or just eat them for a longer experience)
3. take more rue to re-inhibit MAO like an hour or two into it (or would MAO still be inhibited 2 hours into the psilohuasca?)
4. take the acacia tea

What would be the best way to go about doing this?

I 1. don't want swim to purge his mushrooms and waste them
2. Fear that if swim take the psilo first and then waits to re-inhibit MAO and takes the acacia, that it wont have additional effect since perhaps the psilohuasca (at around the peak) will already have raised the brain's tolerance to DMT (and its analogs) and/or have saturated the receptors that the acacia tea would have to act on..

Help me please :3

 

[maranello551]

Will cross tolerance with acacia weaken the mushrooms taken 1.5hr later? Should I redose rue to reinhibit maoi?

No. You don't need MAOIs to get psilocybin through your gut so you could space them apart by hours and as long as the rue is still in your brain the psilohuasca combo will work. If you take your Acacia 22 minutes after your rue like you said above then the acacia will still be way less potent. Take the Acacia and rue together.

I don't need MAOI to get them through my gut but will the MAOI still have the full psilohuasca effect on the mushrooms if the shrooms are taken that 1.5 hr later?

I'm looking for anahuasca+psilohuasca not anahuasca+mushrooms

 

[SnozzleBerry]

No one can answer the questions you are asking because no one has your metabolism.

You are going to need to play around with dosings/timings for yourself and see what happens.

Please be careful, as has already been pointed out, you may get more than you bargain for.

 

[inextweekelorp]

I don't need MAOI to get them through my gut but will the MAOI still have the full psilohuasca effect on the mushrooms if the shrooms are taken that 1.5 hr later?

The harmalas will still be very much active an hour and a half after you take them. You posted another thread asking about how psilohuasca works. The effects of psilocybin are intensified because the enzyme Mono Amine Oxidase breaks down Mono Amine chemicals. Both DMT & psilocybin are Mono Amine chemicals. When you have harmalas in your bloodstream the enzymes that would normally break down psilocybin are being distracted so not only do the mushroom chemicals not deteriorate as quickly but they also accumulate in your receptors more. DMT is broken down very easily by MAO. There's so much MAO in your gut that DMT is Oxidized by it instantly. MAO doesn't break down psilocybin nearly as easily. That's why you can eat mushrooms without harmalas. This also means that the effects of psilocyin are significantly more intensified by harmalas than DMT. Basically that's one hefty dose you have planned for yourself feller.

 

[maranello551]

I don't need MAOI to get them through my gut but will the MAOI still have the full psilohuasca effect on the mushrooms if the shrooms are taken that 1.5 hr later?

The harmalas will still be very much active an hour and a half after you take them. You posted another thread asking about how psilohuasca works. The effects of psilocybin are intensified because the enzyme Mono Amine Oxidase breaks down Mono Amine chemicals. Both DMT & psilocybin are Mono Amine chemicals. When you have harmalas in your bloodstream the enzymes that would normally break down psilocybin are being distracted so not only do the mushroom chemicals not deteriorate as quickly but they also accumulate in your receptors more. DMT is broken down very easily by MAO. There's so much MAO in your gut that DMT is Oxidized by it instantly. MAO doesn't break down psilocybin nearly as easily. That's why you can eat mushrooms without harmalas. This also means that the effects of psilocyin are significantly more intensified by harmalas than DMT. Basically that's one hefty dose you have planned for yourself feller.

If one eats mushrooms and then redoses wothin a few hours there's huge tolerance usually and it just lasts longer rather than getting stronger. Won't this also be the case if one takes the acacia brew and then waits an hour or 2 to eat the mushrooms?

 

[inextweekelorp]

Tolerance will be nowhere near as noticeable with harmalas. You could prolly trip for however long you cared to with that combo.

 

[maranello551]

Swim did it.

Friday.

~2g rue + super filtered (maybe too filtered) 20g acacia shot

waited an hour

5.9g cubensis tea

++++

(jungle warrior vibe + Jewish motif visuals/messages)

Sunday

3.5g rue

waited 45 minutes

8g mushrooms and another 2g 5 hours later

++++ => +++++

(Very deep into dark DMT space....themes of Christianity and reincarnation)


Thanks for the help guys.