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Q21Q21's Tek stole Swims naphtha

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So SWIM did tek 2 easy enough everything went fine until he tried to do pulls. His naphtha (ronsonol lighter fluid) vanished, he knew a loss was a possibility so as advised he made a soupy consistency...very soupy. He used 250g bark he shredded with a quality blender, about 350 vinegar and the same for the water maybe more.

He mixed the naphtha very well, maybe that was his mistake he had searched for answers to this but only found 2. Make it soupy and don't mix hard just smoothly stir. First pull he used 250m naphtha and it all vanished, then he added 200ml and gingerly stirred and got back 70ml then added another 70ml got back 20ml.

Surly this is more common and not just me. All my ingredients and equipment are fine exactly as stated in the tek. Someone has to have the answer to this, any help is greatly appreciated, thanks
 
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Hmm, I used this tek multiple times and never had this problem but I think swim making it too soupy was the problem.
swim should make it moist with little water.
Swim may just let it sit for a while until the water and naptha separate then turkey baster the naptha off.
Or if that doesn't work just let it dry out and try again with less water.
 
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Ahhh yes! What house said.
you won't be able to add lime to it now though so dry it first till its moist then add more lime until it all changes color real nicely then re-pull
 
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Thanks guys, he dried it as much as possible added 100g more lime. Kinda like thick porridge now. He is going to buy MORE naphtha now. The 70ml of naphtha he did manage to pull and freeze had not a lot of spice at all, that was after 14 hours freezing. He will try more pulls now and see what happens, if nothing he'll bin it and go back to good al lye.
 
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If it doesnt work, there's something else you can try. I never did q21/dry teks but I hear if you add sodium carbonate, it will help separation greatly. But careful when handling it because whats happening when you're adding sodium carbonate is that it reacts with calcium hydroxide and forms lye, so your mix will be much more basic/caustic.
 
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Ah thanks endlessness,he will definitely give that a go. And report back.

Glad you warned me about it getting more basic/caustic because he's been getting a little slap happy, he will put his gear on then8). Only trying this tek because He has ordered a GVG because of you and other peoples recommendation and wants some premo spice at hand for when it gets delivered.

I will just quickly add this video my buddy is watching on nibiru I just over heard as I was writing this. It says about ancient mayan shaman knew that Ayawaska connects us to the Epinoia the luminous hyper intelligence of earth. Strange how big this is getting. Skip to 31.45.
 
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I think it's essential to cover the solution!
When you heat the mix from below, it is not surprising it evaporates quickly, so take a plate or something and cover it.
I recommend: Add as much water as possible, but don't make it too moist, add 1ml per 1g of bark and stir, cover, wait 5min, stir again, another 5min, stir, another 5min, pour off the naphtha. It can absorb about 1/3 of the naphtha into the solution, but this never fails, and takes out good amount of goodies.

EDIT: that nibiru movie is a bit too conspiracy theory -minded, I'm not liking to hear "the new world order is controlling the world etc", but I do believe it's very possible that nibiru does exist.
 
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Sounds like the MHRB/LIME/VINEGR mix was too moist, i use more lime than the tek calls for everytime to get the mix drier, and i never mix the naphtha in, i swirl it about gently, pour it off, then mix the MHRB/LIME/VINEGAR again, add naphtha in & swirl again/pour off, this way the naphtha is not being stirred in & is picking up fresh DMT everytime you pour it back in the mix as its coming in contact with fresh surface area, also it's good to have lots of naphtha because i do lose a little bit each time, i still love this tek though.
 
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Hey Tele, glad you got involved I seen you comment a lot on this tek. Yeah I don't know why I didn't think to cover it. But surely it could not evap that quickly I just did another 250ml naphtha and got back 100ml (didn't see your comment till after so didn't cover). But the warm bath was really cool, like you could bath a baby in it. In total iv lost about 500 to 550ml naphtha. Thanks for the tip, I will do that next post.

I know the video is a bit the governments out to get us, I wasn't watching it my buddy was and I just heard the point about Ayawaska. I thought it's strange how its getting so popular now.

Chronic, I hear the consistency should be not so dry because the naphtha wont have anything to be absorbed into...I guess. But your stir remove add again stir remove tek is genius I will be using this for sure. Can you tell me exactly how you do it for example would you pour the naphtha in swirls for like 20 secs remove the nap from solution, then mix the solution for 10secs and repeat, how many times do you do it. great tips guys.
 
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Simply put i just try to use the naphtha without stirring it in, so ill give the mix a good mix break it up into small pieces with a fork so there's lots of surface area & its got a grainy consistency, pour a lot of naphtha in, then just tilt the bowl & swish the naphtha around (not stirring with chopstick/fork) then i pour the naphtha off into a separate container, i grab my fork again & thoroughly mix/break it up so there's fresh surface area, pour the naphtha back in/swish/swirl & then pour it off again, i find it helps to keep the naphtha in a warm water bath aswell as when it is warm it will pick up/hold slightly more dmt, then when it comes to freeze precip you get a high yeild as the naphtha is so saturated it all comes crashing out!
 
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tomtomtom said:
Hey Tele, glad you got involved I seen you comment a lot on this tek. Yeah I don't know why I didn't think to cover it. But surely it could not evap that quickly I just did another 250ml naphtha and got back 100ml (didn't see your comment till after so didn't cover). But the warm bath was really cool, like you could bath a baby in it. In total iv lost about 500 to 550ml naphtha. Thanks for the tip, I will do that next post.

I know the video is a bit the governments out to get us, I wasn't watching it my buddy was and I just heard the point about Ayawaska. I thought it's strange how its getting so popular now.

Chronic, I hear the consistency should be not so dry because the naphtha wont have anything to be absorbed into...I guess. But your stir remove add again stir remove tek is genius I will be using this for sure. Can you tell me exactly how you do it for example would you pour the naphtha in swirls for like 20 secs remove the nap from solution, then mix the solution for 10secs and repeat, how many times do you do it. great tips guys.
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I recommend just putting near-boiling or boiling water to the bowl below. You can even keep the boiling water for lets say 15 minutes before adding the naphtha, to heat the solution(it heats slowly), then boil the water again and put it back, then add the naphtha, this way you will have the naphtha warm quickly and after about 15min and 2-4 stirs you will have nicely DMTd naptha.

About chronics method: that should work too, but if one wants to stir in the naphtha, it's better to be as moist as possible, then the bark will be already absorbed with water and it won't waste your naphtha. However, it's not unusual for me to lose 1/4 or 1/3 of the naphtha. However I can deal with that.

I would imagine chronics method would require the same 5-15 minutes of naphtha in the mix, as the tek recommends?
 
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I am still waiting for the 100ml of naphtha to come out of the freezer to see how that went. With the 70ml I took out after 14 hours and basically had nothing, So this one I will give 24 hours. Tele I am unsure about the boiling water because that I what I did for my first pull, it was HOT, and uncovered left for about 20 mins(with stirring). And evaporated I guess. But yeah I will make sure I have a combined time of about 15 mins while I do the add remove add tek, cheers.

Tele I also see you have commented on using a volcano pad in the GVG was wack. Glad I read that I was just about to order one, as my GVG is on the way. I could not follow the link you provided in the thread for some reason. I know you can use a copper chore boy witch is common in the US, but not where I am from. I would have to buy like 20 from a bulk supplier. So I will be using a stainless steel one like this http://www.bettymills.com/store/images/product/PAD35.JPG . I have cut it down to a little disc shape some tiny holes are visible but pretty tight all in all. The problem I have is I burned it to get all the rubbish off (so it glowed red) but no matter how long I burn it black smoke kept coming off. I burned with a candle, is it common to keep smoking or is this not suitable. Thanks
 
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tomtomtom said:
I am still waiting for the 100ml of naphtha to come out of the freezer to see how that went. With the 70ml I took out after 14 hours and basically had nothing, So this one I will give 24 hours. Tele I am unsure about the boiling water because that I what I did for my first pull, it was HOT, and uncovered left for about 20 mins(with stirring). And evaporated I guess. But yeah I will make sure I have a combined time of about 15 mins while I do the add remove add tek, cheers.

Tele I also see you have commented on using a volcano pad in the GVG was wack. Glad I read that I was just about to order one, as my GVG is on the way. I could not follow the link you provided in the thread for some reason. I know you can use a copper chore boy witch is common in the US, but not where I am from. I would have to buy like 20 from a bulk supplier. So I will be using a stainless steel one like this http://www.bettymills.com/store/images/product/PAD35.JPG . I have cut it down to a little disc shape some tiny holes are visible but pretty tight all in all. The problem I have is I burned it to get all the rubbish off (so it glowed red) but no matter how long I burn it black smoke kept coming off. I burned with a candle, is it common to keep smoking or is this not suitable. Thanks
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OI,

I don't know what do you mean by add remove add tek...

But if you make the solution moist enough so it's not too floaty or won't pour off when you pour the naphtha, as it will be more moist it will not absorb the naphtha.

Warm the solution for about 10 minutes before adding the naphtha, with a boiling water in bowl below. It takes some time to heat the solution, that's why I prefer to pre-heat before adding the naphtha. You can feel the solution with a finger if it's warm, just wash your finger afterwards.

Then change to fresh boiling water and add the naphtha, stir it for about 30 seconds. Then cover it with a plate for example(it won't evaporate so quickly), wait 5min, stir about 15-30 secs, wait 5min, stir 15-30sec, wait 5min, don't stir but you can swirl it by moving the bowl, and pour off the naphtha to your freeze precipitation container.

Usually the crystals can be seen after about 5hours, but to let them all crash out it's good to wait 24h.

If you kept uncovered and stirred for 20min, it's no surprise it evaporated, same thing happened to me when I started.

No need to heat the steel mesh, just soak it in acetone or heat it very gently to remove any processing oils.

I highly recommend ordering from ebay.com chore boy copper mesh, it works like a dream.

I tried stainless mesh but for some reason it gave off some metallic taste when vaporized.
 
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