Hey. Sorry for necroing the thread, but I think it's important to mention a few facts that might place the whole discussion in a different light.
Note: A. Muscaria
is a very dear companion mushroom to me, and had been part of some wonderful synchronicity condensation events in my life. I am not against this mushroom, or its use in entheogenic practice. That said, it's not as forgiving a teacher as any of the tryptamines, so read up and always use less than you think you'd want to.
So.. The whole fly agaric ambrosia / golden fleece thing seems to be a strange religious concept that can likely be traced back to a single person with a website full of ravings. This wouldn't make it
not true per se, but the mycology of the mushrooms involved, and the lack of reliable reproductions and TEKs done by psychonauts who do not sound like they are part of a cult do make it
highly unlikely.
Amanitas are mycorrhizal fungi. This means they only grow in symbiosis with the root systems of certain trees. The spores of many mycorrhizal fungi do not even germinate into a mycelial web unless they get in contact with their symbiotic tree. The
example I could find of
A. Muscaria mycelium being grown isolated in a laboratory involved cloning the mycelium from a living mushroom cap, as opposed to germination from spores.
I think it's safe to assume that A. Muscaria spores are extremely unlikely to germinate in grape juice or sugar water.
Also, in the above mentioned lab experiment, the cloned mycelium grew slowly and acted generally quite unhappy. I do not think such techniques would allow the production active compounds in any useful quantity.
So literally all mycological knowledge points to any 'fleece' produced to be mold. And of course, that mold
may theoretically produce muscimol, there is literally no reason to even entertain this possibility. Mushrooms harvested outdoors - which is every
A. Muscaria mushroom - will be covered in the spores of dozens (if not hundreds) of competing fungus species. So if you put it in sugar water, something will grow. Probably something different each time.
The hypothesized historical use of grape juice in conjunction with
A. Muscaria on the other hand does make sense, as the acidic environment allows the conversion of the harmful ibotenic acid to muscimol.
tl;dr
- There is no verified way of growing this fungus indoors, and the science points to there being no way, period.
- However, it is highly prolific and easy to find in the autumn months in temperate zones. It's not too hard to gather a year's supply, and then dry it.
- If you want to use it, boil it in grape juice for 30-90 minutes, and please do not let it rot.
- If you have trouble reliably distinguishing any mushroom from
A. Phalloides, just stay away from it.
Leave phalloides to the master shamans haha
