Question for the Experienced

[InAwe]

Hello friends,

I have a question for all you experienced travelers.

How often can you breakthrough before you feel your presence is unwelcome??

I am new to this experience, and recently felt as if I'm pushing too hard. I don't think I received a "hyperslap," but I intrinsically knew that I had overstepped my welcome in some way.

I understand that this question is highly personal and subjective, but I'd reallly like to get your take on it. And if you don't want to give specifics (i.e. How many times per week/month/year), I'd still greatly value any insight you'd be willing to share.

The flash is so beautiful and so alien that I want to visit often, but I feel as if this may be 'contraindicated,' for lack of a better word.

Thank you!

 

[syberdelic]

I have never felt the need to dive into any sort of psychedelic more than maybe once a month. With that said, I don't think there is any numerical limit to frequency so long as previous trips have been properly integrated.

 

[entheogenic-gnosis]

For some it may happen fairly quickly, for others it may never happen...being "locked out" does not seem to be very well understood.

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[TGO]

Set and setting play a large role in this. There isn't usually a whole lot of rhyme or reason to any particular experience so making sure your mindset is solid and that you are in a safe place physically should always take top priority. If something is making you feel unwelcome or if you feel you are pushing it too far, it may be wise to take a break for a little while and integrate. Or, on the other hand, you could keep pushing through just to see what happens.

However, the more you push it, the more you see. Sometimes hyperspace pushes back and whether or not that is a reflection of ourselves, is still a mystery. There is no magic number, sometimes we get slapped, sometimes we don't. All in all, no matter what happens, you'll return to your body eventually! So again, set and setting are our best tools to prepare for hyperslaps, imho.

 

[Norsern_vind]

SWIM travels when called, or when answers cannot be found through normal circumstances.

 

[Psilosopher?]

I think DMT locks you out, because you aren't doing what you need to be doing, i.e. following its guidance. Every time i get undisciplined in my everyday life, DMT is unwelcome. When i get my life sorted, do positive and productive things, DMT says hello.

 

[tseuq]

Set and setting play a large role in this. There isn't usually a whole lot of rhyme or reason to any particular experience so making sure your mindset is solid and that you are in a safe place physically should always take top priority. If something is making you feel unwelcome or if you feel you are pushing it too far, it may be wise to take a break for a little while and integrate. Or, on the other hand, you could keep pushing through just to see what happens.

However, the more you push it, the more you see. Sometimes hyperspace pushes back and whether or not that is a reflection of ourselves, is still a mystery. There is no magic number, sometimes we get slapped, sometimes we don't.

:thumb_up: The rule is, there are no rules and even this, is just fiction.

All in all, no matter what happens, you'll return to your body eventually!

Sweet crazyness

Happy and safe travels, tseuq

 

[Skylight]

Set and setting play a large role in this. There isn't usually a whole lot of rhyme or reason to any particular experience so making sure your mindset is solid and that you are in a safe place physically should always take top priority. If something is making you feel unwelcome or if you feel you are pushing it too far, it may be wise to take a break for a little while and integrate. Or, on the other hand, you could keep pushing through just to see what happens.

However, the more you push it, the more you see. Sometimes hyperspace pushes back and whether or not that is a reflection of ourselves, is still a mystery. There is no magic number, sometimes we get slapped, sometimes we don't. All in all, no matter what happens, you'll return to your body eventually! So again, set and setting are our best tools to prepare for hyperslaps, imho.

Very well said. As we don't fully have the answers to many of hyperspace's dynamics, I do have a strong inclination to believe that if you aren't doing the 'work' it shows you to do (ie integration, applying the knowledge that may have been imparted on previous journeys), you can perceive feelings of being 'locked' out. Ive only had one 'bad' journey in about 50 or so, and it was because I did not meditate and prepare for that particular journey. I was also not in a symmetrical state ( I always sit in lotus for a blast off). As soon as I entered the space, I felt about 7 or so entities shaking their heads, as if "You know better than this. You have more respect for us/yourself than this". So it ended, I was scared shitless, spent some time meditating and revisited the next night (which took loads of courage, might I add). I had one of the most beautiful journeys that night, and never looked back. I have definitely blasted off multiple times in a week, and also gone months in between journeys. The key is to be honest with yourself, and know to to really listen to that inner voice (consciousness), as to when is the right time. Listen to your subtle body, listen to your heart. Safe journeys, and keep spreading the light!


Skylight

 

[Ulim]

Ahem. Ive been kinda "abusing" dmt in my opinion. I used it multiple times a week but ive never felt like I was "locked out". :?

 

[DmnStr8]

Un-welcome?! Never felt that way. I felt like I was being messed with at times. I felt like I have had some rather negative experiences but I never felt like I was not welcome. I guess I never took anything personally. I figure whatever it is that I am experiencing is happening for good reason and I pay attention. If I feel fear, I try and feel it all. If I feel happiness, I feel it all. I have no preference anymore. I accept whatever happens with as much grace as I can muster.

When I first started exploring DMT I did it fairly often. I was excited to do it and for me it was like figuring out a puzzle or something. I needed more information. All the information I received from many journeys create a definite cognitive dissonance for myself. I hit a wall. Some of it was boredom. Some of it was confusion. But most of it was living in a way that did not jive with my heart. My DMT experiences changed me fundamentally.

When you live in a way that does not jive with what you believe deep down then that can create a recipe for negativity. I really don't know how to explain. It is like something was shown to me through these experiences and I did not feel content or happy until I started to live my life in accordance with what I was shown on DMT. For instance, love, I felt this very real connection with all living things, a true feeling of love, genuine. I would normally not give homeless people money. But there it was, that feeling. So I give some money to the homeless guy. The next and so on. I started giving them bottles of water. Started learning there names. These people are placed in front of me. I will not ignore them. I began to feel a connected with everyone I see everyday. I began to help wherever I could. And it changed my life to be honest. I would not have been able to have these experiences in this life now without first having had the DMT experiences. They opened this up in me in a very real way. I have a hard time explaining the profundity of it all in my life.

Not sure if that answers anything but that is how I feel about it. Again language is so limited and the feelings that come in are very strong. I key in on the strong positive vibes and follow that. I stay aware of the negative vibe and embrace it like a friend if it comes. Everything is a lesson.

 

[Final Incarnate]

Hello friends,

I have a question for all you experienced travelers.

How often can you breakthrough before you feel your presence is unwelcome??

I am new to this experience, and recently felt as if I'm pushing too hard. I don't think I received a "hyperslap," but I intrinsically knew that I had overstepped my welcome in some way.

I understand that this question is highly personal and subjective, but I'd reallly like to get your take on it. And if you don't want to give specifics (i.e. How many times per week/month/year), I'd still greatly value any insight you'd be willing to share.

The flash is so beautiful and so alien that I want to visit often, but I feel as if this may be 'contraindicated,' for lack of a better word.

Thank you!

Your Always welcomed in the Pure realms but i can only speak on DMT .

just dont rush it. if u get feeling i should w8 a day then do so, sometimes " third eye and crown" need a charge ( only using those terms very loosly w/o zen Junkiness )

There have been trips for me in which ive had Massiv e"Psychic Surgeries" ( another term using very loosely) and was advised from Sshura to wait 2 earth days b4 coming back and to stay earthy as possible during that time )

an even more simple way to put it, on Earth we go to gym to bulk up, our work out routines have rest days, same applies to those Pure Realms .

l8r m8

 

[InAwe]

Thanks to all of you for sharing your experiences and insight.

DMT seems very sneaky in that it can sometimes masquerade as a recreational drug, but sometimes be the exact opposite. I don't want to treat it as recreational. I think this would be a grave mistake. And the very last thing I want is to be "shut out," or to build some long lasting tolerance.
It's a strange paradox. I want to venture to these spaces often, but I intrinsically know that it's just too powerful to use often.

On a lighter note, I have recently obtained some clarity as to how I can begin to integrate my most recent experiences. I had previously thought that integrating these experiences is impossible. But in an obscure, oblique sort of way the flash showed me how I can make some positive changes.

I'm looking forward to learning and experiencing much more. I'll just have to stifle my desire to blast off too often.

 

[tseuq]

... be honest with yourself, and know to to really listen to that inner voice (consciousness), as to when is the right time. Listen to your subtle body, listen to your heart.

Your advice seems to be a good point to start from (for living a "conscious life" - what ever that means).

I used it multiple times a week but ive never felt like I was "locked out". :?

Aww.. :lol:

.. love, I felt this very real connection with all living things, a true feeling of love, genuine.

One in every now, unconditional of our actions and believes. Everything (values, concepts, assumptions) I derive from it is "man-made", which is important for our (peaceful) cohabitation. Values as orientations for our actions with regard to our goals (f.e. Peace, happiness,.. ). Determination of "right/wrong - good/bad", in the dimension of self, creates duality and consequentely suffer.

I don't want to treat it as recreational. I think this would be a grave mistake. And the very last thing I want is to be "shut out," or to build some long lasting tolerance.

Keep your doors open, so everything can come, visit and go.

tseuq