Question: Harmalas levels in Pharma, Aya and Changa, large variance?

[General Gypsy]

I don't personally extract caapi, i just brew it. But from what i know, its common to get much higher yields when extracting caapi than rue. But the alkaloid profile is just not the same...you need way more caapi harmalas than if you were eating rue harmalas (plus the weight would probably drop quite a bit if they were thoroughly cleaned up?). Also keep in mind there is a lot of other things in caapi besides harmine, harmaline, and thh

Even if you eat them all, its not likely to be super intense by itself since it is afterall only 60g of vine (unless its some really potent stuff and/or your very sensitive)

 

[Orion]

I'd like some sort of definite answer on this... I thought caapi contained mostly harmine, which so far as I know should be enough to activate DMT at the usual dose of 200mg ?

 

[endlessness]

A couple of thoughts..

One way to answer this is, whoever is going to brew caapi, get a known amount of the brew and extract from it to see alkaloid yield. Then ingest a certain amount of extracted alkaloids one day, and drink the equivalent amount of brew another day, compare the effects, post here.

Another thing to consider: Harmine might turn into harmaline and then into THH over time with boiling. THH does NOT have considerable MAOI activity. People brewing for extended number of hours versus quick extractions might mean that extracted alkaloids are more potent than the brew.

Here's some of the analysis on aya. Seems to vary between 50mg - 350mg of harmalas per dosage (considering a 50-70ml dosage), but often that is repeated 3 times in a session, which would mean from 150mg to 1g+ harmalas in a session (though maybe the strongest ones are not drank so many times or dosages are reduced in subsequent doses).