So I'm preparing to do my first extraction using Vovin's tek as my main guide. Now can I use 500g of Mimosa and the same amount of lye, acid, and naptha? I ask because scaling them would be a large amount c ompared to other teks it seems. Also I'mnot sure if I should defat or not. Any help on the matter would be great!
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DudeMeetTyler
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if its your first go at a new tek (let alone first extraction) why not keep it small, 100 g should yield something very nice.. and wont be disastrous if it goes to hell
but to answer your question, yes, I would scale the acid pulls, for any amount larger than whats suggested, accordingly.. just reduce later to a workable amount and carry on as stated
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but to answer your question, yes, I would scale the acid pulls, for any amount larger than whats suggested, accordingly.. just reduce later to a workable amount and carry on as stated
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skip defats, adjust all amounts proportionately.
If you dont have much experience, DONT extract 500g, extract 100 or 200g or 250g..... Leave bigger amounts for when you have your technique well established.
If you dont have much experience, DONT extract 500g, extract 100 or 200g or 250g..... Leave bigger amounts for when you have your technique well established.
I've decided to start with 100g using Lextek steps 1-4 with an overnight decant and Vovin's steps 7-9. Should keep it a pure and hopefully high yield. I watched the needed MIT vids and ordered a good amount chem equipment including a Buchner Funnel and Pump. Some questions I still have however:
When it comes to a water bath can I just boil a pot of water and hold the beaker in the hot water? Off the stove of course...or should I invest in a few hot plates?
Evaporation or Freeze Seperation it? If quality spice can be produced with Evap then I'd rather just use a rubber tub and blow a fan over it...
When cleaning my lab equipment is there anything special I should do to prevent contamination? Or is that not an issue?
Lastly (for now anyway ^^) can I use the Buchner as a seperatory funnel in all steps?
Thanks so much for the help, you are an amazing group of people...one I look forward to growing in to!
When it comes to a water bath can I just boil a pot of water and hold the beaker in the hot water? Off the stove of course...or should I invest in a few hot plates?
Evaporation or Freeze Seperation it? If quality spice can be produced with Evap then I'd rather just use a rubber tub and blow a fan over it...
When cleaning my lab equipment is there anything special I should do to prevent contamination? Or is that not an issue?
Lastly (for now anyway ^^) can I use the Buchner as a seperatory funnel in all steps?
Thanks so much for the help, you are an amazing group of people...one I look forward to growing in to!
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STB - 50g = good first try!
(but totally up to you)
(but totally up to you)
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Hichi said:
If you have no problem affording hotplates for heating definitly go with one of those. Then you can keep your water warm without having to take your flask out, reboil water on the stove, and put flask back.
Freeze precip gives way better product than evap. Pure stuff precips first leaving behind impurities, where evap leaves impurities in final product usually.
Just clean glassware with soap and water. To dry glassware quicker for collecting only nonpolar layer, you can dry it by shaking around alittle acetone in it and then blow it dry.
If your Buchner doesnt get clogged you can use it for any step, though it will probably clog. Can filter coarse material with cloth and squeeze out (with gloves on ofcourse), filter again through cloth with gravity no squeezing, then after your buchner should have no problem filtering the fine sediment.
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vovin said:
by wash do you mean a sodium carbonate wash of the solvent?
do you re-x after collecting the crystals?
@vovin Right on, thanks for the imput! A STB will save me a ton of effort it seems. I plan on evaping a bit of it so Ive got some sice right off the bat then freezing the rest for 3 days.
@Kash You have been a huge help my friend! I will indeed invest in at least one pad.
Now for the hard part. Waiting 2 weeks to get my MHRB!
@Kash You have been a huge help my friend! I will indeed invest in at least one pad.
Now for the hard part. Waiting 2 weeks to get my MHRB!
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Im having an issue with vovins tek basification step, i dont know if this is important to do quickly but when i basifed it first turned dark brown. Now it is a thick green sludge. I took a sample to the side and diluted it with 50%water to see if it was because i did not mix the lye and water sepratly. I dont think this affected it. The lye i tried adding to water by itself was not dossolving correctly, and I saw another tek that said add it straight but others did suggest against it.
It could also be because i added lemon, and while continuing the tek i thought it was not acid enough because it was not black, I decided to add 4 drops of muratic acid. Could the muratic acid have something to do with the reaction with the base?
Please respond, I could use some help & quick.
Thanks
It could also be because i added lemon, and while continuing the tek i thought it was not acid enough because it was not black, I decided to add 4 drops of muratic acid. Could the muratic acid have something to do with the reaction with the base?
Please respond, I could use some help & quick.
Thanks
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