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Reality broken

StrawberryFields

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Hi everyone,

I know I'm on the DMT Nexus Forum here, but since I found references to mescaline extraction (Kash's A/B mescaline extraction), and I just love mescaline, I thought it would be nice to both share my experiences and learn more about this wonderful alkaloid.

So first, How did I get into all of this?

My first mescaline experience goes back to 2013, twelve years ago, when I was 48. Before that I'd been a pothead for a long time (started when I was about 17, stopped when I got married at the age of 35). And even before that, when I was very young, I'd already discovered ether (not good for your health!) and sniffing toiler freshener put me in an altered state of consciousness. Enough said, suffice it to say I just love exploring other states of being.

I had a brief brush with cocaïne which propelled me into an aggressive addiction that emptied my bank account in no time. Then, at a moment when I was out of cocaine, weed and money, someone offered me a bag of mushrooms. I had my first psylocibin trip and lo and behold! The cocaine addiction disappeared overnight!. I then experimented with huge amounts of shrooms until one evening, everything just feel into place. Suddenly, my life, who I was, why I was who I was, how I’d become who I was, even a peek at the divine nature of reality. It all became crystal clear in an instant. Like a supersaturated salt solution into which you drop a tiny seed and in the blink of an eye, all these beautiful structures appear.

I meditated for a long time, but gave up. A daily practice, it requires a lot of discipline. I did achieve some results, emptying my mind completely for 30 minutes or so. It's a bit like training for a marathon; you just have to do it very day, don't think about the end goal too much but simply keep it up. The results will come by themselves.

I learned to meditate in yoga philosophy classes, given by a western teacher who was considered an authority (Indian yogi's would come and take lessons from him) in yoga. In these classes (Satsangs), he would discuss Patanjali's Sutra's, but also would digress often into western philosophy, parallels with Christian mysticism, quantum science and - yes - even psychedelics.

Other than that: Very strong interest in science early on (I ended up studying biochemistry) and the BIG questions. I remember I felt queasy after watching a Star Trek episode where they went to the edge of the universe (at least that's what I remember). I then started thinking of what would be beyond the edge of the universe and felt very uncomfortable all of a sudden.

Despite studying biochemistry, I ended up working in IT, earning good money, despite a persistent cannabis habit and the occasional mescaline trip :).

So bit of a long intro: My main goal is to perfect mescaline extraction from San Pedro tea because I've tried it twice now, and I do have some issues and questions.

But to finish off this introduction, allow me to briefly describe one of my 17 mescaline trips so far that really knocked me of my socks. It was my second experience.

Reality broken.

The first time came about because I'd received a reference to a post from someone I knew; something about life after death, but in there was a link to a book about San Pedro: Ross Heaven's The Hummingbirds Journey To God. Intrigued, I bought an 80cm cutting of Trichocereus Pachanoi, prepared a traditional San Pedro tea and that ended up being a medium strength experience. After which I was determined to go 'one step up' as it were.

So I bought well over double the amount I had the first time. 190 cm of cactus. I set out in the evening trying to get the skin off along with the spines, and ended up at four in the morning, with sore hands, raw cuts all over my fingers, flesh under nails that had been cut by cactus skin as I tried to peel it off, and very tired. I chopped up what I had and put it in the freezer.

The next day, after only a few hours of sleep, I started preparing the cactus. I got the chunks out of the freezer and sent them through a juicer with a bit of water. The result was a big bowl of light green - almost fluorescent snot with a layer of foam on top. The rest was still in the juicer. I tried to filter it through a sieve, a colander, but that didn't really work. The filtered stuff looked absolutely disgusting. It had bits of skin and white cactus core floating in a light green mucous type of consistency. I decided to give up on the filtering and managed to get a bowl-full of green snot that didn't have any skin, spines or other pieces of cactus.

With the help of some tangerine juice, I ingested the bowl I’d managed to filter out, and set about collecting the rest, clean up the mess I’d made of the kitchen top by now (in the midst of having to feed my three cats), and got a large pan out for the boil, filter and straining technique. I also had a large cup of very, very strong coffee, straight after that, because I’d read that caffeine further potentiates the mescaline. So, after a rather stressful phase last night, the preparation had become a bit of a disaster as well.

Needless to say, the boiling took me over three hours to complete, and by that time the effects of my first bowl of ‘raw’ mescaline were full on. It does come on quicker, and results in a more crisp and sharp experience, so it is in my opinion a superior method. One just needs to find a way to filter it more effectively, and be able to eat it all, because it is truly disgusting.

By the time I decided I was ready to strain the boiled cactus solution, I was well into the effects of the first lot I’d ingested, actually feeling higher than I did on my first attempt a couple of months ago. And I’d only had maybe a quarter or less of what I had in terms of cactus quantity!

I ended up with about 500 ml of 'tea', which I drank very quickly.

I keep notes when I trip, and after the entry where I drink the liquid there is nothing except for 14 hours after that, which was the point at which time I was capable of starting to put some reflections on paper. The whole trip lasted well over 24 hours.

This is sort of how it felt: At one point, and this was still part of the first ingested lot, things became completely disconnected, in every conceivable manner:
  • Semantically: Impossible sentence constructions with impossible words went through my head.
  • Chronologically: It felt as if things happened in a completely fragmented way and sequences of events appeared to just exist and be experienced as single, unconnected frames; I’d remember things that hadn’t happened yet and things that had happened earlier felt as if I I’d never experienced them.
  • And as a consequence, ontologically: Reality literally came apart, and I must admit I feared for my sanity at this point. Up was left, down was sideways, before was during and after was never.

A “what the fuck did I do to myself!” feeling washed over me, and it felt as if I might never return to normal. At one point, I felt some kind of pull from, some kind of presence of something very powerful and frightening. In retrospect, I think it was call to fully let go and dissolve. I did not dare.

Three things made me come out in one piece. I guess the only other route I could have taken was complete surrender, which was a lot more terrifying than I thought the surrender into the divine unity would be. In fact, it presented an existential terror I’ve never felt before.

  1. There was something playful, mischievous about the whole thing. It felt everything had become completely jumbled up in a very intricate, almost technological way, and it was just going to be my mission to ‘fix’ it all (Thereby actually putting reality back together from scraps of existential unconnected fragments). Fortunately, this playfulness seemed to be part of the first ‘raw’ dose I’d ingested and this theme continued into the rather dramatic second phase, where I must have ingested a lot more mescaline than I’d bargained for, and when reality literally came apart
  2. Raw instinct of survival. The feeling of everything being broken at the fundamental level of the fabric of how I normally construct my ordinary reality was frightening, but I was going to fix it and figure out a way back. That feeling was there from the start
  3. My three cats. Luckily, the mischievous nature of the middle of the lot, Casper, and the innocent – I just stumbled into this thing – way of the youngest, Milo, along with the needy, relentless cries for attention of the oldest, Trixie all put things in perspective a bit, and kept pulling me back to some kind of responsibility, this thing that I had to do, as I gasped for ontological breath, trying to put reality back in order.
I don’ really recall how I spend those 14 hours exactly. I remember wandering around the flat, trying to find my cup of coffee that I’d left somewhere. That took me a while. I had lots of drags from my e-cigarette and listened to music. There was one track in particular on LTJ Bukem’s Earth volume 6 that had a rhythm section that fit very well with how I felt: random, but with an order in it if one looked hard enough. I also repeatedly muttered to myself “it’s broken, isn’t it?”, almost giggling. Mozart brought some relief as I had to lie down on the settee with my eyes closed for some time. At one point I looked into the mirror and asked myself “Who am I?”. Without me thinking anything really consciously, an answer came back: “I am everything, I am Shiva” – my face changed colour, “I am Vishnu” – changed colour again, “I am Brahman” – another colour change. I also passed by the mirror once, and said to myself, with the face of Mescalito: “Friendly warning! Don’t mess with me!”.

Something peculiar I remarked was an indescribable notion/feeling/thought that I recognized as exactly the same as something that would occur in my mushroom trips so long ago. Eerie to “recognize” a psychedelic feeling from a totally different substance, and from 15 years ago!

I tried going to bed, but ended up just trying to relax, control my breathing. I had a kind of vision of something that looked like a cosmic airport, with lights blinking all over the place. Kind of like a “Reality Command Centre”. Beings/people were sliding long bars with lights on them in and out of machines, probably as they were trying to fix reality for me. I can’t recall if it was me that broke reality or them or my cats. All I know it was thoroughly messed up.

I went for a walk about 26 into it, still tripping. The walk was nice and I was hoping the clean air and the exercise would coax my metabolism into dispensing with whatever remnants of the mescaline were still floating in my brain. No luck though. The walk led me to the park. It was a beautiful, crisp morning with a bright sun set in a blue sky with wispy clouds. Looking at the buildings around me, reality still felt like a cosmic air traffic incident gone horribly wrong, it was still not right and I was still trying to find a way to fix it, although not as dramatically as the previous night.

I stopped in front of a tree with dazzlingly bright yellow leaves, looking as the sun lit the leaves from behind it and cried. I felt so lucky to be alive, so grateful that I was sane again, so awestruck at the beauty of reality and the gift of life.

The next day, I went to work, and still my head was not feeling the same as the Friday evening before I’d started. But at work, I was able to function efficiently, and all my angst had actually disappeared! It seemed I coped a lot better than before the weekend. It felt like I had returned to a different reality though, it just was not the same as before, but not in a bad way, just different, and actually more real, more alive.

The rest of the week, I continued to feel light-headed and had no trouble at work or have any panic attacks. My meditations were deeper and calmer than before.

Conclusion:

It is this experience that makes me want to:

  • Measure my dose more precisely.
  • Find a way to not have to drink disgusting snot or San Pedro tea. It truly is foul.

Hence: Mescaline extraction!

Psychedelic greeting!
 
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Hello and welcome to the Nexus 'secret' cactus club ;) What an opening salvo! It's great to have you here and, yes, we do have some solutions to your cactus questions.

On the most straightforward and possibly least appealing end of the scale, which entails having access to the right cactus, I've had considerable success simply by chewing strips of fresh⁽*⁾ cactus over the course of several hours.

This did entail my having had the good fortune of having been gifted a specimen which is both potent and palatable.

[Maintaining good specimens in cutivation is both easy and imperative, by the way. The wild harvesting market has already put a severe strain on indigenous cactus populations.]

Aging of the cactus cut in the dark for several weeks increases potency too, meaning less cactus goes further.

The strips were cut in a helical fashion around the core of the cactus, making removal of the skin all the easier. IME, quidding of these strips enhances their efficacy through buccal absorption direct into the bloodstream (which sets me thinking right now: it might be worth adding a pinch of lime to aid in this process, like with coca). Regardless, it worked well enough, but of course I swallowed everything as well.

It should be noted, my general life routine involves regular, daily consumption of bitter herbs so I'm capable of happily ingesting some concoctions which most people struggle with. Nonetheless, I fully appreciate just how revolting some San Pedro brews can be - bitter, slimy, salty brews that inspired me to call mescaline "god's way of saying sorry" - but be assured, (more) palatable strains really do exist.

Now, I mentioned lime in passing, which brings me round to what you're really looking for - the jewel in the crown of entheogenic extraction techniques…

CIELO


Let those cactus strips dry out cracker dry in a food dehydrator, powder them and, well, follow the rest of the CIELO instructions which needn't be replicated here.

Have a great day!
 
Thanks you so much for your warm welcome. And so much useful information in there already!!! :love:.

RE the chewing method. You mention the necessity of having access to a specimen which is both potent and palatable. I live in Western Europe and have two online shops I can get San Pedro from. One is a more modern web shop that also sells shrooms, truffles, seeds, growing kits etc. I get the impression they prioritise growth rate over mescaline content. The other specialises in Cacti of all sorts, both decorative and psychedelic. He tends to have higher quality (the trip account above was one of his).

The fact is. One never knows the potency of a cactus unless you try them or have descendants of a known specimen. Unfortunately, I haven't kept any of the specimen I consumed with notes on their potency in light of my experience with them. So point taken! :)

Then there’s the skin removal. I like the helical cut. That might improve things. When i tried removing the skin along the grooves’ it would just tear around the spines, even after removing them (I use nail clippers).

One thing I found makes drinking the tea easier is filtering it. I haven’t found a strainer cloth fine enough yet to do it fairly quickly, but coffee filters are good if you have a day or two. The resulting clear liquid is far easier to drink than the brew with all the fine plant material. I tend to boil in slightly acidic (pH 3-4) water for at least two hours, strain, reduce and repeat at least three times.

As for the potency, my working theory is that the ratio mescaline / other alkaloids can vary greatly (see New mescaline concentrations from 14 taxa/cultivars of Echinopsis spp. (Cactaceae) (“San Pedro”) and their relevance to shamanic practice). While the other alkaloids ( like 3-Methoxytyramine, 4-hydroxy-3,5-dimethoxyphenethylamine, anhalonidine, anhalinine, hordenine, and tyramine (1)) certainly contribute to the overall psychedelic effect but most of all to the ‘nature’ of the trip, it’s the pure mescaline I’m after. So thanks for the CIELO reference too!

Have a wonderful day and thanks again!
 
One more caveat, with quidding a non-aged specimen of a different but still potent cactus I got a 12 hour headache on top of stimulant effects and mild visual alterations. A tea from a different clone of the same specimen was more benign by comparison, but still felt 'edgier' than the palatable strain. My guess is that it may have had more of the less than fully-substituted tyramine derivatives.

I'll address a few more points in the morning (well, lunchtime at this rate 😴)
 
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Hi @StrawberryFields
amazing experience!

190 cm sounds like a lot. Even 80 cm should give a very strong experience. Maybe the first one wasn't very active? or maybe your threshold is higher than mine

I think that surrendering to dissolution would have been wonderful but it's ok if you couldn't do it. It's usually advised to surrender to avoid getting hurt in the process of resistance, but it seems like you came out ok so it's all good! There is a thread on the Nexus called "is it always right to surrender?" or a similar title if you want to check it. Anyway i suggest to take some time to process the fear that you felt.

To avoid getting hurt by the spines you can cut all along the rib. You won't waste much cactus because their base isn't deep inside.

If you still have the base and/or the tip of your cacti it's best to keep them (and pot the tip) to let them grow. They're very pretty plants to keep and grow and even easy to mantain, and it's nice to feel their presence in your home or garden.

During the afterglow was that feeling of reality being broken evoked specifically by the buildings or by everything inlcuding the natural elements you mentioned?
 
Thanks Cosmic River, I will check that out for sure because ultimately, that is what I’m looking for. Hence the quest for pure mescaline so can find my “dose/ threshold”

The afterglow feeling of reality not being quite itself anymore ☺️ was specifically tied to the buildings. Natural surrounds kind of “fixed” it.

The feeling also came back in a milder form in two of my subsequent experiences. I dubbed it the “architectural” feel. Like how a photographer would frame one or two tall buildings. Wide perspective and an echo-y feel.

As for letting go. I think it was the third or the fourth experience. I’d decided to not drink all of the tea, had a strong trip, not hyperspace though but kept a quarter, which I stored in the freezer. Months later, I thawed it and drank it, thinking it would just be a mild experience. It turned out to be a very powerful experience. I had to lie down and this time fully let go.

And it was so beautiful!! Filled with light and bliss. Not ego dissolution but still, for a mere quarter of what I had before unexpectedly powerful. I read somewhere that freezing puts the San Pedro to rest, making it more potent.

And finally, yes, personal threshold. I remember the amounts of shrooms I had to take were at least double what other people would take.

Thanks for the tip about the spines too! Whatever I do after, when I get some cuttings in, removing the spines from the part I’m going to prepare and taking my time for it is a bit of a ritual now where I say thanks and sorry to the plant ☺️
 
OK, so here's those couple of things that slipped my by yesterday:
One thing I found makes drinking the tea easier is filtering it.
Have you been blending the cactus? I'd still recommend slices for birewing - and the spiral cut is more convenient for on-the-go, gradual munching of raw cactus, or for air-drying in absence of a food dehydrator.
I read somewhere that freezing puts the San Pedro to rest, making it more potent
I'm not sure how freezing a brew would make it more potent - your previous trips may have "broken open your head" - but I've seen good enough results from freezing sliced cactus prior to brewing.

Having properly read your trip report rather than just skimming it, well, that was a real pleasure to engage with your writing style and the wry humour of how you expressed your utter bewilderment. Those 'symptoms' of the complete disintegration of time, space and meaning are something I've heard of before, but are yet to have experienced myself. Your account somehow (perversely) makes me want to try.

I'm rather averse to tripping too near buildings (particularly modern ones) myself these days - but have you had any experiences where you've been around much older buildings? But yeah, it's this factor that nowadays rather limits the frequency of my own journeys.
 
Have you been blending the cactus? I'd still recommend slices for birewing
Yes, I always blend the cactus very thoroughly. Increase contact surface and extraction efficiency and all that. But of course diced or sliced makes filtering / straining a lot easier, and you’re left with a lot less gunk. Must give it a go. Have you been able to compare blending / slicing with equal amounts of the same specimen by the way?
I'm not sure how freezing a brew would make it more potent
Something I read on Erowid I think (after the facts, I simply put it in the freezer because I felt like I’d had enough and no time to consume the rest any time soon after that). Not sure what the scientific basis is. All I know is that this one time, it was unexpectedly powerful; more powerful than three times what I had of the same brew - fresh - months before. So anecdotal evidence at best ☺️. Freezing diced / sliced cactus one night before prep does break the cells walls (water crystals are less dense than the liquid phase because of the structure of the crystals) and obviously helps with extraction.
Having properly read your trip report rather than just skimming it, well, that was a real pleasure to engage with your writing style and the wry humour of how you expressed your utter bewilderment.
Thank you so much! Taking notes and writing is an integral part of every trip for me. This account came straight from my notes; it was only after 14 hours I was able to start reflecting on what had just happened. Glad you enjoyed my prose ☺️.
Those 'symptoms' of the complete disintegration of time, space and meaning are something I've heard of before, but are yet to have experienced myself
After that “reality broken experience”, I’ve had one experience that came close but where I was in control. This time I waited until the peak, then smoked some cannabis and it became almost LSD like (not that I’ve ever done LSD). Reality came apart, time became non-sequential and language was fully abstract. Yet I was able to integrate everything through the contextual coherence of events rather than their chronological order. It felt like I perceived and integrated everything at the same time and language was superfluous because I thought in ‘concepts’ rather than words. It only lasted about 30 minutes or so and I loooved it!!!
have you had any experiences where you've been around much older buildings?
I rarely leave the house when I trip. I always have my (virtual piano, synths, guitar and my favourite playlist to hand ☺️. One thing I would love to do once is have a proper trip in fully natural surroundings but I live in a fully urban environment, so the logistics are somewhat challenging.
 
Multiple boils, with fresh changes of water, get the actives out of sliced cactus quite effectively, and it takes much of the strain out of straining. This does mean there's a rather large amount of brew requiring reduction, but the resulting long simmer helps to break down the slime a bit more.

It's also possible to dry out the near-exhausted cactus thoroughly and then grind it into a fine powder. My remnant powder turned out to be surprisingly pleasant, maybe because frankincense had been added to the brew. There's certainly more to cactus as a medicine than just mescaline and similar alkaloids.
 
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