really!..just how visual is acacia?

[starway6]

Ive been extracting acacia with mixed results for weeks and my experiances with acacia is somewhat confusing..
How phycadelic is acacia?
I read about and personally have experianced a narcotic like body load on full spectrum and less body load but a drunken like experiance where still no noticable visions with eyes open and some low level visions with eyes closed?
Just how visionary is acacia?
My doses have been pretty low but recent higher experiances all most knocked my head off! causing me to not take the second thick hit...[but still nothing too visual]

In comparison ...If i took two ..[small hits].. of salvia 7x extract I [instantly!] experiance OEVs over laid in front of my eyes as i still see the walls of my room..
And if body load comes.. it comes on soo slow its hardly noticeable to me..
[...And thats on a very small dose of [7x salvia extract!]..

With acacia [dmt..nmt]..a larger dose has hit me like a mountain.. but but a visionary experiance is still lacking...
Do i need to knock myself out.. [with acacia]..to experiance anything visionary..

So far... comparing salvia extract..to acacia spice...salvia is much more visionary..

In my experiance with acacia..[with doses ive been vaping].. it just makes me feel drunk and acts like it will cause me to pass out?

Is that second..or third hit.. that nessasery to breakthrough on acacia/.
I mean that with mimosa dmt reports ot colorfull paterns are common at low doses but not so with acacia...

Acacia may be visial experiance.. but at what dose??

Im ready to just get some mimosa...

 

[null24]

I really have little experience with Mimosa, so it's impossible to give you a comparison, and I never weigh my doses of acacia extract, so I can't answer that part of your question. But I've worked alot with acacia, and while I know what you are talking about-the narcotic body load (someone I know has compared it to heroin)-higher doses are Vertu much hyperspacial. My first interactive entity encounter was with out a coulee weeks ago, and all of my senses were receiving input in that state.

I always make an enhanced mullien smoking mix with the ACRB extracts, for several reasons. First, I have a hard time pulling xtals. Second, it's easy to dose. Third, it's easy to smoke. The mix of alkaloids, and the ratio, always send very different with different samples of ACRB. The last one I received seemed very high in dmt, low on nmt, and very light on beta carbolines. It was indeed, very visionary though.

I'd like to get my hands on some mimosa too do a comparison. I smoked jungle spice in a couple occasions, and it did seem to get me there a little quicker, but I honestly can't remember the dose to compare.

It may have to do with your bark. It appears there see many variables that affect alkaloid content, and harvest time is important.

 

[Entheogenerator]

If you purify your extract to remove all the other alkaloids (primarily NMT), it will be every bit as visual as DMT extracted from Mimosa tenuiflora. DMT is DMT. If you remove the other psychoactives, the effects will be indistinguishable.

 

[starway6]

If you purify your extract to remove all the other alkaloids (primarily NMT), it will be every bit as visual as DMT extracted from Mimosa tenuiflora. DMT is DMT. If you remove the other psychoactives, the effects will be indistinguishable.

[Entheogenerator]... I just found out this afternoon when vaping more of my newly pulled and recrystalized acacia...
What you said on my post that it may be NMT?..[crystals taking too long to desolve].. [in extraction paths] may be correct!:d

Yes..I think the [photos ] of stuff that wouldent desolve .. might be NMT as you sugested!
Because this afternoon ..i scraped up a small amount of left over spice i extracted this morning..and noticed the vapor was diferent just a bit harsher and WOW did it work and I and I took three hits holding then in only 8 to 10 seconds each...!

I just layed dowmn ..[closed my eyes].. and quickly entered an awesome ..[galatic carnavile ] that was soo colorfull and highly detailed!!:d
Everything was going on there! ..it was as if i were looking at the gates of this carnavile from a wooded hillside at night.. ...
This was a light experiance ..and it impressed me...

I could make out colorfull spinning spider webed paterns with with scorpians and animals ..birds stars..it was a whole universal carnavile it was so beautyfull!
[the after glow is still with me hours later!]

I think what may have happened.. was when i took my one gram of acacia crystals and redesolved them in warm napatha noticing that some stuff wasnt desolving no mater what i did..
These little clumps of beige colored chunks would not desolove in the napatha and when i crystalized the remaining napatha i got only about half of the amount of crystals i had before..
The new crystals are soo white and glitter like diamonds compaired to earlyer crystals..

[[I think..Some how ..[the NMT seperated from the dmt!].. during the ..re crystaizing process]?]]
I Removed of whole acacia bark today:grin:
Ill put photos below...

 

[Earthwalker]

Mmmmmm yum :roll: , I eve always scared to re x thinking I'd lose the crystals all together

But I'll give it ago , but with the purer xtals do I smoke the same amount as before or do I

Smoke half as much ??:shock:

 

[Entheogenerator]

Mmmmmm yum :roll: , I eve always scared to re x thinking I'd lose the crystals all together

But I'll give it ago , but with the purer xtals do I smoke the same amount as before or do I

Smoke half as much ??:shock:

Well that depends on the amount of impurities that you remove. If you end up with half as much DMT after recrystallizing, then use half the dose. Most of the re-x's I have done have only removed a small percentage of the material (>20%, usually closer to 10%), so the dose was more or less the same.

It would be difficult to lose all of your spice by doing a re-x. It is much more difficult to screw up than the extraction process.

 

[starway6]

Entheogenerator ..
I want to mention that in ..top photo above.. particles that would not desolve in warm napatha.. may be NMT..
These particles at first ..[droped to bottom of jar..!]
But now as you see in photo above.. most particles are floating on surface ?.. [after removing the napatha...thats strange...
Does this say anything?

 

[starway6]

My second positive DMT experiance today ..:d ...

After 8 months of starting with... incorect smoking methods..lightbulb vapes....tiny doses... and an unfounded fear of DMT]...and just pussy footing around for too long [for second day in a row]..

I believe my fear of DMT is diminishing fast ..as it becomes more of an enjoyable experiance for me...
Now I see why its liked soo much!

Today I experianced an awesome trip ..[still on lower doses].. but higher than yesterday.. as i quickly found the visual qualitys of DMT very a beautyfull thing...and ability to think straight durring trip great!

On my trip today on maybe ..[20..to 25 mgs].. of spice ..i noticed for first time ..
[SOLID MOVEMENT].. of my walls and floor and entered an awesome world with breathtaking colors ..purples...golds...oranges..reds...greens ..wow... what an experiance!!

The native american spiritual music blended so well with experiance...

I think what helped greatly was my recent success seperating the NMT from the DMT as i find more pure DMT more of my likeing!

Also my making changa months [earlyer]..with full spectrum acacia was ok.. but too much like a narcotic high body..

I like less of a body load.. and more of a mind trip better for me...

When i was comming up vaping my acacia DMT today..the walls and floor breathed intensly.. very much like my LSD experiances of years ago...

I know now there is nothing to fear with DMT.. as long as its used wisely weighing propper doses ..

I now see DMT as a medicine more than a recreational unlike some others...

Im still basking in the afterglow!:d ..

Today..I entered through the door and want to go farther inside!

Hopefully soon I will have some trip reports to share!

 

[Entheogenerator]

I'm not sure if that indicates anything, other than the fact that the substance is not DMT.

Was the movement of the walls and floor the extent of the visual effects you experienced? 20-25 mg should be more than enough for a person to experience at least the shallows of hyperspace: as in full-clarity closed-eye (and possibly open-eye) hallucinations.

 

[starway6]

I'm not sure if that indicates anything, other than the fact that the substance is not DMT.

Was the movement of the walls and floor the extent of the visual effects you experienced? 20-25 mg should be more than enough for a person to experience at least the shallows of hyperspace: as in full-clarity closed-eye (and possibly open-eye) hallucinations.

The movement of walls and floor were defenantly not the only experiance..

Thats what i noticed on the come up with eyes open..
Im an acid head from way back.. i can at will make walls move a little just by starring at them a while..

No this was more serious.. as i felt myself floating and [with open eyes] ..saw the walls comming at me and drawing back..just like a mid acid trip...

The DMT nexus webb..pictorial.. with all the colored pictures is simmilar to what I observed except what I saw was hundreds of times more colorfull and detailed!..
[It was so beautyfull!

Quickly after the visions fell on me so [quickly] especially when i closed my eyes..and

it was soo cool.. the ..purples...greens...yellows ...oranges...were awesome and full of moving visions..

I saw what apeared to be three green entitys walking together and it took on a ...
[cosmic carnivile] kind of feel..
I was on my way in... but my dose was a little too small..then i started laughing my head off .

I was so entertained by this place that seemed to whisper the message ..
[anything is posibible here!]

Comming up I also noticed that ..[time dialation thing].. where it seemed a long time between my next breath ..time seemed slowed down ...but my rational thinking ..was very much intact!

For me..This was just a second peek into the DMT world..

And for me.. all the other times in past months the NMT was ruining my trip as i felt like i took a heavy dose of melatonin with a narcotic like body load..

Im shure ridding the DMT of the NMT made all the diference!

 

[Entheogenerator]

Ah, gotcha. I must have overlooked the part about when you "entered an awesome world with breathtaking colors". My bad! :roll:

 

[datdmt]

so far all of my DMT experiences have been from the acacia confusa. not every time is incredibly visual, but i have seen incredible things. DMT is DMT, however; each experience is mentally psychedelic, and isn't that the point?

 

[starway6]

so far all of my DMT experiences have been from the acacia confusa. not every time is incredibly visual, but i have seen incredible things. DMT is DMT, however; each experience is mentally psychedelic, and isn't that the point?

Thats Right!..DMT is DMT..but ive found that the more pure the DMT is..[meaning ridding it of NMT and other alcaloids].. at corect dose ..the more colorfull and beautyful the experiance ..atleast thats the way ive seen it in my experiances!
Ive been having great.. CEV..visuals even at low doses latley..and im just starting to walk through the DMT doorway and have a lot to learn ..

 

[soulfood]

My only experience with Acacia is which the confusa sp.

I found that judging by what I've read of NMT there was definately some DMT characteristics present in the experiences. Like having a low dose of DMT with something else. Typical faint holographic OEV's with an increased enjoyment of presence. Then aside from that there's an element where my mind is quieted and I become physically rather inactive.

It's a great plant for soft meditative states.

 

[○]

I did a small test extraction on 50g ACRB, powderized.

Just a thorough A/B, with 7-8 naphtha pulls (room temp), and freeze precipitated.

Yielded around somewhere in the ballpark of 1.3-.5g white xtals mostly, with like 100mg translucent goo.

Took roughly 50-60mg of the xtals and melted them down on a bed of mullein in a standard cannabis pipe. Took 2 humongous hits, thick white vapor.

At the first hit, unmistakeable acceleration, vibratory qualities, spot on to extracted spice from MHRB. After holding for 15 seconds or so, exhaled, took the second hit and held.

As soon as it was taken in I knew this was going to go far. I honestly couldn't believe how similar the experience was...well...actually i could believe it..

I was gone, fully enmeshed within the other side. I was ecstatic. Hyperspace rejoiced with me in full embrace. Felt more 'gentle' through and through. A strong euphoria, although that euphoria could've stemmed from any number of factors. The bodyload was heavy but not in an unsettling way whatsoever.

If there was NMT in there..I could barely notice it's synergy tbh.

tat

 

[Entheogenerator]

I did a small test extraction on 50g ACRB, powderized.

Just a thorough A/B, with 7-8 naphtha pulls (room temp), and freeze precipitated.

Yielded around somewhere in the ballpark of 1.3-.5g white xtals mostly, with like 100mg translucent goo.

Took roughly 50-60mg of the xtals and melted them down on a bed of mullein in a standard cannabis pipe. Took 2 humongous hits, thick white vapor.

At the first hit, unmistakeable acceleration, vibratory qualities, spot on to extracted spice from MHRB. After holding for 15 seconds or so, exhaled, took the second hit and held.

As soon as it was taken in I knew this was going to go far. I honestly couldn't believe how similar the experience was...well...actually i could believe it..

I was gone, fully enmeshed within the other side. I was ecstatic. Hyperspace rejoiced with me in full embrace. Felt more 'gentle' through and through. A strong euphoria, although that euphoria could've stemmed from any number of factors. The bodyload was heavy but not in an unsettling way whatsoever.

If there was NMT in there..I could barely notice it's synergy tbh.

tat

If you yielded crystals there was probably very little, if any NMT present in your extract.

A mixture of NMT and DMT will typically not readily crystallize, the way DMT does on its own. When people do heated NPS pulls on Acacia confusa, they often end up with the DMT/NMT "goo". NMT is not very soluble in naphtha or other aliphatic hydrocarbons, so room-temperature pulls will not pick up very much of it.

 

[starway6]

Tattvamasi..Cool report!
This [acacia experiance]..does very similar as mimosa spice effects.. but did you hear the [much talked about] auditory sounds linked to mimosa spice?

If the come up was ..[more gentle than mimosa].. spice and the auditory effects were gone or more quiet..wouldent that make acacia a more desirable experiance?

Ive noticed that when that vapor gets thick im in for a ride the more pure the dmt the more visual!!