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Recommendations for torch lighter with GVG?

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Trickster said:
I tried every imaginable heating device (torches, bics, candles, matches, homemade electric heating coils, heat guns, etc).

Dremel heat gun is the best. You would not even need a GVG. It can vaporize changa or straight spice from anything.

It is simply impossible to overheat the spice, let alone to burn it.

No experience is needed. It does not heat too much to ignite anything if dropped and it stops wokring once dropped.
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It surprises me that every time I see you make this post about the heat gun that no one replies to it. I think this is VERY interesting and maybe you can make a thread about it? With information on how exactly you use it, methods to use with different materials, etc.

I'm really curious about it. :)


Kind regards,

The Traveler
 
I have never thought to use my heat gun which I use for heat shrink insulation when I build connectors.... My blazer lighter works pretty well even if you have to hold it nearly upside down for it to work properly. It is reliable and has a huge butane tank on it for its compact size.
 
I have the GVG and a good torch lighter so I don't need to look any further. I have the perfect equipment for vaping DMT :D And I love it.
Was btw. just coming back from one hell of a ride through hyperspace. Changa made of 10x caapi, calea and DMT is extremely powerful stuff!!! :D I feel sooooo alive :)
 
Recently got the Arc Turboflame lighter, wich is probably the best tool ever, in combo with my GVG.

I find out that I need to take about 5 tokes in the genie in order to break through, is it the same with everybody or?

Also got some minor problems with the lighter. Often doesn't light up and needs to be tried a couple of times before it works. Could it be because I'm not using "double refined" butane? Where do I find this kind of butane, by the way?
 
Dark Matter said:
Recently got the Arc Turboflame lighter, wich is probably the best tool ever, in combo with my GVG.

I find out that I need to take about 5 tokes in the genie in order to break through, is it the same with everybody or?

Also got some minor problems with the lighter. Often doesn't light up and needs to be tried a couple of times before it works. Could it be because I'm not using "double refined" butane? Where do I find this kind of butane, by the way?
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I also use the Arc and GVG. I’m able to take a full dose in a single inhalation – every time. Five inhalations? Sounds like your doing something wrong (unless, of course, you want to take a dose spread out over 5 inhalations). What do you put your DMT onto?

I’ve never had any problems getting the lighter to light. I doubt it's a butane issue.
 
Dark matter-> I also have an arc and a gvg and I can vaporize 30mg in a single inhalation so my guess is that you either :

- Do not inhale long enough
- Do not apply enough heat (but that's unlikely)
- Do not hold the smoke long enough (you must hold it for at least 10 seconds, I usually hold it for 20 seconds)
- Do not use enough screens and herbs, I use 11 screens + a mullein bed and NEVER have any bleed-through.

As for the fact that you have issues lighting your arc up you can increase the gas flow (I've set it on max) and also you should
put it in your fridge for at least 30 minutes before you fill it up with butane, that way it will hold much more gas.
 
Im going to order the arc myself at the end of the month, how close do you find you have to have the tip of the flame to the GVG filter before vapor starts forming?
 
justine said:
Dark matter-> I also have an arc and a gvg and I can vaporize 30mg in a single inhalation so my guess is that you either :

- Do not inhale long enough
- Do not apply enough heat (but that's unlikely)
- Do not hold the smoke long enough (you must hold it for at least 10 seconds, I usually hold it for 20 seconds)
- Do not use enough screens and herbs, I use 11 screens + a mullein bed and NEVER have any bleed-through.

As for the fact that you have issues lighting your arc up you can increase the gas flow (I've set it on max) and also you should
put it in your fridge for at least 30 minutes before you fill it up with butane, that way it will hold much more gas.
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Thanks. I think that the flame of my lighter not being strong enough (fixed that) made it too long to heat the element (and in conclusion, too long to get a good inhalation). Will try adding more screens also.
 
Chronic said:
Im going to order the arc myself at the end of the month, how close do you find you have to have the tip of the flame to the GVG filter before vapor starts forming?
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I will give it a full blast of heat for the firat second or two, then il pull the flame away a little.

You just gotta test it out and find what works best for you:)
 
Anyone with the arc... can you confirm that you can turn the flame down to the extent that you could use it to SLOWLY burn a bowl of changa? (i'm not using it with the GVG)

Thanks in advance...
 
Chronic said:
Anyone with the arc... can you confirm that you can turn the flame down to the extent that you could use it to SLOWLY burn a bowl of changa? (im not using it with the GVG)

Thanks in advance...
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I got an arc like a month ago after reading this thread. I am VERY pleased with it. You can adjust the flame to be huge or very tiny. I dont have a GVG either but the arc works perfect with a bowl of changa. It never misfires unless it's low on fuel. You will not be disappointed. in short... YES!
 
^^ yip, ive used my arc with both my GVG and bong(ash sandwich) and it works wonders for both. The flame is really direct so its easy to control the temp applied to the bowl.
I find that in our colder days I need to warm up my arc first, like il have to keep it in my hands for a few minutes for it to fire up properly. Only in the warmer summer months does it fire up no problem.
 
Does anyone have any issues with getting a steady small flame on the arc?

When its turned up half way or more the flame is reliable, but if i turn it all the way down the flame ignites a couple times then dies out, so the lighter doesn't work on the lowest setting. I've had plenty lighters in the past where the lowest setting doesn't get a steady flame... but id like to hear from fellow nexicans if this is their experience with the arc?

Im concerned about using the arc with the GVG aswell, vapor genie have now put a statement on their website to not use torch lighters with the GVG as they can crack the glass.
 
I'm still waiting for my Arc to come in, so I can't really offer any advice on the flame adjustment.

I have read that you need to hold the Arc in your hands for a few minutes to get it warmed up when it's kinda cold out.

I've been reluctant to use any other torch lighter with my GVG because of the cracking issue.

From what I can tell (which isn't hands on, so this is speculation on my part), the Arc's flame is so precise that you can hit the element itself without touching the glass.

As long as you just heat the element, you should be fine. Just stay away from the glass as much as possible.
 
Back when i bought the CVG i also bought the lighter they were selling to go with the VG, its a vector pipe lighter that lights at a 90degree angle, next to the arc its the nicest & most reliable lighter i own.

Im going to try using that first & maybe give the arc a couple test runs to see if it's any better, if the vector does the job i can't see reason to risk using a torch lighter, vapor genie even sell the glass replacement parts wihtout the ceramic filter as this is obviously an issue.
 
Chronic said:
Does anyone have any issues with getting a steady small flame on the arc?

When its turned up half way or more the flame is reliable, but if i turn it all the way down the flame ignites a couple times then dies out, so the lighter doesn't work on the lowest setting. I've had plenty lighters in the past where the lowest setting doesn't get a steady flame... but id like to hear from fellow nexicans if this is their experience with the arc?

Im concerned about using the arc with the GVG aswell, vapor genie have now put a statement on their website to not use torch lighters with the GVG as they can crack the glass.
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I can’t get a very small flame on my arc either. Below a certain setting, it won’t even ignite. I also can’t get a very large flame – the range of adjustment seems very narrow. From lowest setting to highest is only about 1/4 turn.

As far as using a butane torch with the GVG goes, just be sure to keep the flame centered over the bowl and above the ceramic diffuser – don’t point it directly at any glass surfaces and you should be OK. (I have a hairline crack in my top piece from one time when I used a high-powered hobby torch.)
 
My arc is (hopefully) on the mail so I dont know about it yet, but regarding torch lighters and GVG, I havent had any problem. Ive used it many many times (even with too-strong torch lighters) and had no problems. Just point it towards the ceramic filter (as one should, anyways), not the glass.
 
gibran2 said:
I can’t get a very small flame on my arc either. Below a certain setting, it won’t even ignite. I also can’t get a very large flame – the range of adjustment seems very narrow. From lowest setting to highest is only about 1/4 turn.
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I have found most unsteady lighting issues come from not completely draining the reservoir before refilling.
It doesn't fully clear the issue, but I get a steady cone at 1/3 flow when before it had to be at 3/4.
Heating it up with your hand for a few minutes before also helps a lot.
 
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