Reed Canary growing extraction

[royalalpha]

I've this interest in extraction from phalaris, currently started some P.brachystachys growth
but reading a bit about phenotypes, i think being so selective about strain and cloning is hard

what about bulk? i read an article(old study) about alkaloid concentration of P.Aquatica and follows the main accepted facts about hardening/time of day harvesting and fresh leaves, the strange thing is that that claimed v high concentration in very young age of the plant(most probably because the overall mass of the plant is small then)

but i had that idea, which i'd be happy to receive your thoughts about:-
- reed canary grass is being sold in bulk and cheap
- if i bought 2-3kg of the seeds,keep them immersed in water for a day(break dormancy,and reject non-viable floating ones),then moving to large shallow pans with enough water just to cover the seeds and put into light(for germination)
- the seeds will be in shallow water and in very large density
- i will feed with liquid fertilizer for a 2-3weeks(after germination(3-4 days i had in P.brachystachys)
- try to apply water deprivation hardening, may be shade and temp. changes
- harvest what will be fresh green seedlings
- wait for re-growth and after 2-3weeks do the second harvest

i think with that we can achieve:-
1- high population means variable phenotypes
2- no need to for large space with this v large density
3- no need for long wait periods of root/stem building
4- i suggested 2-3 weeks,but i will do according to plant growth may be 10days,but generally short cycle

what do you think guys

 

[King Tryptamine]

Hey there fellow sappling, I'm an indoor gardener itching to grow something viable for extraction purposes inorder to become self-sufficient. Of course, space is my limiting factor so I was curious about your 2'nd goal on the list - " no need to for large space with this v large density" So I got to ask, how much space would we be talking about for a Phalaris setup?

 

[royalalpha]

I'm in the planning/idea phase, i have no exact expectation
but i have experiences with wheat i was preparing for fishing, and left over it all germinated in a very thick and dense manner
P.brachystachys is 7cm/2mm(more or less) after six days,so i expect some similarity for Reed Canary Grass, so it will be extremely dense,may be 1kg in a tray of 30x50cm

if i had some positive feedback from experienced members of the community i will give it a go and publish exact details and photos as i go with the experiment

 

[King Tryptamine]

Just curious, why would you choose Phalaris grass as opposed to something like Psychotria with a higher and less variable alkaloid profile?

 

[royalalpha]

I've explained that reed canary grass is sold in bulk (locally 1kg for 1.2USD),i wish i could have any other reliable plant source and for a reasonable price

 

[King Tryptamine]

Fair enough :thumb_up:

 

[royalalpha]

no feedback from anybody:x :x :x

 

[King Tryptamine]

no feedback from anybody:x :x :x

LMAO :lol: Sorry broski, skrew it you might as well just give it ago and be the pioneer. You've got my vote :thumb_up:

 

[royalalpha]

I've already given it a go
i bought 4kg of RCG, immersed in water for a day and put into shallow panes in my balcony(a day ago)
1-i had a wrong impression of area requirement: the seed size is about 2mm, with density of 1700seed/kg that would require 4m2 if we were to put in single seed layer, i had to put it into multiple panes stacked in 2-3 layers of seed(a pane or two are more dense,4kg is a huge amount)
2-i wanted some feed back how to provide nutrients in the liquid, i did some research and supplied about 3g Urea + 1g KSO4 + 0.5g MgSO4/ Litre ( i will provide P,Ca in coffee and egg powder later)
3-now a day is gone i'm having concerns of the water molding
4-i had another concern about birds(sparrows,pigeons around),as they could have got fat on my expense,phalaralis is bird seed so far yesterday i think it passed safely
5-i should have processed seeds for foreign seeds,as i could notice it now,but hopefully will not be a big deal(if it worked at all)