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Regarding sodium carbonate cleaning

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ｂsann

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I don't want sodium carbonate to get mixed in when cleaning, so I use distilled water for cleaning.
I mix distilled water with non-polar solvent containing dmt by shaking it, but I feel that shaking and mixing reduces the amount of dmt harvested.
Is it possible that some of the dmt is transferred to the distilled water side by mixing the distilled water with the non-polar solvent containing dmt by shaking it? I'm curious what the scientific reaction is.
 
If the water is milky afterwards then you probably just have a suspension of DMT in the water. Fix this by making sure the water isn't colder than your solvent when washing, you ought to be able to pull the freebase back out of the water with a little clean NPS.

If the distilled water is slightly acidic (say, from absorbing CO2 since distillation) then you might get some freebase converted to water soluble salt.
 
fractals4life said:
If the water is milky afterwards then you probably just have a suspension of DMT in the water. Fix this by making sure the water isn't colder than your solvent when washing, you ought to be able to pull the freebase back out of the water with a little clean NPS.

If the distilled water is slightly acidic (say, from absorbing CO2 since distillation) then you might get some freebase converted to water soluble salt.
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Thank you for your response. nps refers to non-polar solvent? Is there any way to extract dmt from water (distilled water)?
 
NPS is non polar solvent, yes.

To extract DMT freebase from water you do exactly the same as extracting it from the bark soup ... add a little NPS and agitate, you should see the water go clearer. You'll find the solvent separates much more quickly and easily than with bark soup too.
 
To extract any salts formed because the water was acidic... add base, the water should go cloudy to indicate the presence of freebased DMT, and then proceed with NPS extraction once the DMT is freebase.

The idea of washing with weak sodium carbonate solution is to prevent salt formation in the first place by ensuring the water is alkaline.
 
Indeed. Sodium carbonate washes circumvent the acidification problem not only by converting dissolved CO₂ into bicarbonate, but also by increasing the ionic strength of the aqueous phase. This makes it more "repulsive" towards non-polar molecules such as DMT freebase.

If you've been worried about sodium carbonate getting into your NPS, then either your SC solution is too saturated or/and you've been shaking too vigorously. But what have you observed, exactly, that has been making you think this is a problem?

You can also use a brine wash, btw.
 
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