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Report from turmeric extraction

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Samadhi-Sukha-Upekkha

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This is the report of my friend's attempt to use turmeric extract as a potentiator of DMT.

Procedure with results: He took 112 grams of dried powdered turmeric and added room temperature naphtha until the naphtha was twice as high in the container as the turmeric. He immersed the extraction vessel in a hot water bath at ~95 degrees Celsius. The mixture was stirred for 7-10 minutes with a metal spoon while remaining in the hot water bath.

A turkey baster was used to draw the naphtha off the top. This stirred up some of the turmeric, which was allowed to settle as much as reasonably possible. However, some turmeric powder ended up in the evaporation container. The extraction was repeated with a new hot water bath and more naphtha, and the combined organic layer was evaporated with a fan. The next day, the naphtha appeared to be completely evaporated -- it couldn't be smelled at all. However, my friend still spent about 15 minutes blowing the remaining oily substance across the evaporation surface with a blow drier on maximum heat and fan speed.

This oily mixture, which was presumed to be virtually devoid of naphtha because no volume decrease was observed during the blow drying, was mixed with approximately 1/4 cup of olive oil. The olive oil was divided into 2 portions, with one portion slightly larger than the other. 1/2 tbsp of preground black pepper was added to each portion. The larger portion was given to my friend's friend, whom we'll call Demetrius. Demetrius is a normal weight/height male of approx 20 yoa. Demetrius added about 1 cup tap water to the mixture, stirred it up, and drank it. He reported that it was very difficult to get the mixture down due to the horrific taste.

My friend took the smaller portion, being about 35 pounds lighter than Demetrius, and he added 1/4 cup tap water. He downed the mixture in about 2 rapid shot-taking gulps and immediately chased with a small glass of milk. The milk was intended to reduce the burn of the pepper and turmeric, which it reportedly did perfectly. (Casein in milk somehow displaces capsaicin-like compounds from their receptors, which is why milk or ice cream works great if you eat something too spicy. Or so I hear.)

One and a half hour later, the two friends shared a bowl with blue lotus/damiana ash on the bottom, 30 mg of spicy crystals in the middle, and some dried damiana on top. The damiana was lit and then the mixture was smoked, with all breaths that tasted like spicy crystals held for 15 seconds after the end of the inhalation.

Each person experienced effects that are completely normal for 15 mg of DMT smoked in a pipe with the sandwich method. The effects diminished over the next 10 minutes.

The dose was repeated with a 40mg bowl as the effects of the first bowl were diminishing, in the hopes of "bumping up" to a total of 35 mg of DMT in each person's system. Effects approximately matched a 20mg dose of DMT.

About 10 minutes later, 60 mg of DMT was smoked between the two people. The effects were mild -- approximately the same as with the shared 40 mg bowl.

Discussion: The extract may have slightly reduced, but did not prevent the rapid resistance effect of DMT. These results were similar to what the two friends had done previously with re-dosing smoked DMT, where the body seems more tolerant to each consecutive dose. The extract also did not potentiate the DMT experience at any noticeable level. There was a mild headspace alteration with the extract, which could have easily been due to the placebo effect. Each bioassayer experienced heartburn as a result of ingesting the extract.

Conclusion: The described method did not appear to achieve a significant level of MAO inhibition in either bioassayer. It may have mildly prolonged the comedown and mildly decreased the rapid resistance effect, but those results could have been imagined. Without a real scientific experiment and some valid data to do statistics on, it's impossible for this trial to demonstrate any effect of turmeric extract, produced and ingested in the method described, on smoked DMT.

Any input is welcomed.
 
Its a worhty investigation which needs further trials.
Interestingly, I tried Turmeric extract (Curcumin 95%) so it was all pre standardised, I also potentiated the curcumin with black pepper extract (Piperine 95%).
The results were less than expected, there was very little to report back other than the tryptamine tingles on my skin. The curcumin/piperine did have a mild effect on me although this was about 6 months or more ago and I don't remember exactly what they were, they were not unpleasent though.
I should have followed up with more trials and possibly a different regimen of curcumin/piperine dosing. The fact that I felt the tryptamine tingles at all was a good sign.
I probably should have dosed every 2 hours for the 8 hours preceeding the trial.
This was orally imbibed and no smoking was employed.
 
SWIM has been testing with curcumin lately, though he has not made any breakthroughts lately, he has some info to add.

In all of these SWIM's tincture is of 20-25ml of canola oil for 66g of ground turmeric extract evaporated from naptha.

Sublingual administration is at least 2x more potent than oral, though both work.
1ml separated into 2 batches of a few drops sublingually, held for 5 minutes then spat out, produced effects very close to that of 2ml orally

Curcumin extract sublingually (.75ml) and smoked white freebase DMT 20 minutes later drasticly effected the trip.
The whole experience did not differ in length nor intensity to spice alone, though my headspace was clearer and the visuals were much different, more like N-Oxide than white DMT, though distinct from either.

Though disgusting and harsh, the oily extract can be smoked for similar effects, dose was not noted, though a couple drops in changa could be an option.

2.5ml curcumin extract orally with 78mg of white freebase DMT caused effects identical to those of just 2.5ml orally.

Sublingual curcumin with sublingual white DMT acetates produced effects identical to that of sublingual (rue extracted) harmalas and white DMT acetate, slight effects.
SWIM is hopeful for trying again with the much-better-sublingually jimjam or jungle alkaloids, though he is going to work with THH and DMT first to get the dose right.

While it should be noted SWIM's sleep patterns are very effected by many psychoactives, ie: can't sleep not matter what less than 10 hours after mescaline ingestion.
Curcumin extact taken 2 hours before bed (1ml sublingually) caused much less refreshing sleep although like many harmalas it made dreams slightly clearer than sober.
SWIM is planning to try another test with it taken 5-6 hours before bed, SWIM has had drasticly effected dreams from damaina, thujone and harmalas taken in similar timing.

SWIM was waiting for his sublingual test with he is very hopeful for before posting about it, but might as well add to the thread, it is a very interesting substance

Cheers
 
Hi just thougth I vould coment with my meager trials with curcumin and related compounds. I have no experience with or axsess to Dmt in any form yet. But I have been trying out a home made yohimbe tincture (yohimbe/98%alkohol) as a potentiator of cannabis and, man that does realy work. I place some herb on a small plate and pour on a good amount of the exstract, and let the alkohol ewaporate, the residue is a redish/brown powder coting both herb and plate. this I put in to my vaporiser and inhale. It was both stronger and more relaxsing than the pure herb, and it creates a head space of clear mind and inspired foucus.
After reading about the curcumin reports on this forum I desided to try that to, but I have stil to make an extract, so I mixed a huge amount of turmeric powder with some alkohol to help with absorbtion and to make it in to a paste. and put it under my upper lip and under my thounge. I toleraded the taste well and held it atleast 15 mins in my mouth stiring it around a bitt, as the sligth burning sensation of absorbtion subsided. I feel something, a sligth alteration (I think not placebo) about 15 minutes after the start of the experiment, after 30 minutes I vaporise some herb and It does do something similar to the yohimbe extrackt. And as some forum members coment, after sleeping I do not feel rested, but it's not a hangower. So I think that there is some maoi aktivety but not as strong as with harmala alkaloids.
 
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