Restoring Microflora and Gut Function

[endlessness]

You mistake science and facts for prejudice, which is a convenient fallback when someone exposes you as a charlatan.
(...)
What part of this do you not understand?

A charlatan is a person who fools others in order to gain some advantage, and migmag is not here selling anything, just sharing his experience.

Even if he has made a mistaken conclusion regarding why he got better, and even if what he says he took can be dangerous, still there are better ways to communicate here than this kind of tone.

That being said, I agree that you ask for evidence, though even if he does not provide any, I still think he could share his experience, with a disclaimer regarding possible lack of safety and that people should research that, which I think he missed in his post. For example;

As for what are Turpentine or Kerosene, they're just so powerful in CLEANING the bad stuff in the body, so the more you are cleaned, more you feel stronger, more better immune system, so more power to beat the infections naturally by body itself.

That is a claim you MUST back up if you say it, migmag.. Or you need to reword it, for example " It felt subjectively like it cleaned me" " my theory is that it does this or that" . E-prime and all of that..


Now back to one thing Psybin mentioned, you posted sources of poisoning drinking petrochems... But as we obviously know, anything is a poison in a certain dosage. In one of those articles you linked, it said the guy drank 600ml of refined petrol, which seems like an aweful lot! What are the dosages you were taking, migmag?

Personally I find the idea of taking kerosene or some other petrochem/non-polar solvent sounds pretty aweful, and I'd certainly question what kind of damage it can create. If I had a positive experience with it in one aspect (for example digestive system feeling), I still would question whether there are damages to other areas I cannot feel. Either way I would definitely also be careful with suggesting to others and def post some disclaimers.

 

[migmag]

appreciate your post Endlessness

You are absolutely right, I was too much into sharing my experience and story that I forgot the official disclaimer. I'm sorry about that.

As for Kerosene dosage, of course the recommended dosing is very small, from few drops to max a teaspoon or so. I believe I had shared some links toward the use of kerosene or turpentine such as www.health-science-spirit.com/kero.htm plus I also mentioned you can't find many scientific studies on it, it's an old ancient treatment, and still being used mostly in Russia and eastern Europe...

I have a deep appreciation for Kerosene, people like it or not ) just because it helped with my issue.

 

[anne halonium]

being used mostly in Russia and eastern Europe...

well ,im sold now:thumb_up:

:lol:

 

[safrol]

being used mostly in Russia and eastern Europe...

well ,im sold now:thumb_up:

:lol:

Dear anne halonium,

I would have never expected you to sell your soul for good.

-saf

 

[anne halonium]

lol.
ill sell anything not locked down with chains.
(and thats only because my ex husband got the plasma cutter in the divorce.)

dont ask what happened to the club golf carts for instance.........

i asked my russian maid about kerosine drinking.
she has heard about it. but considers it silly.
she says its something the poor russians do.
( and then she raised her eyebrows and rolled her eyes)

there ya have it, if my maid denounces it , its gospel fer sure:thumb_up:

 

[Psybin]

You mistake science and facts for prejudice, which is a convenient fallback when someone exposes you as a charlatan.
(...)
What part of this do you not understand?

A charlatan is a person who fools others in order to gain some advantage, and migmag is not here selling anything, just sharing his experience.

Even if he has made a mistaken conclusion regarding why he got better, and even if what he says he took can be dangerous, still there are better ways to communicate here than this kind of tone.

That being said, I agree that you ask for evidence, though even if he does not provide any, I still think he could share his experience, with a disclaimer regarding possible lack of safety and that people should research that, which I think he missed in his post. For example;

As for what are Turpentine or Kerosene, they're just so powerful in CLEANING the bad stuff in the body, so the more you are cleaned, more you feel stronger, more better immune system, so more power to beat the infections naturally by body itself.

That is a claim you MUST back up if you say it, migmag.. Or you need to reword it, for example " It felt subjectively like it cleaned me" " my theory is that it does this or that" . E-prime and all of that..


Now back to one thing Psybin mentioned, you posted sources of poisoning drinking petrochems... But as we obviously know, anything is a poison in a certain dosage. In one of those articles you linked, it said the guy drank 600ml of refined petrol, which seems like an aweful lot! What are the dosages you were taking, migmag?

Personally I find the idea of taking kerosene or some other petrochem/non-polar solvent sounds pretty aweful, and I'd certainly question what kind of damage it can create. If I had a positive experience with it in one aspect (for example digestive system feeling), I still would question whether there are damages to other areas I cannot feel. Either way I would definitely also be careful with suggesting to others and def post some disclaimers.

Thank you endlessness for that post, you are right. I will have more restraint in the future, taking care to speak more from the head and less from the heart. I certainly should have phrased my post in a less harsh and inflammatory way.

 

[Cognitive Heart]

I currently enjoy hemp milk and coconut milk as my two central 'milks.' As well as unpasteurized cheese or pre-probiotic yogurt on the occasion. Being raised with plenty of breastfeeding eventually led to a diet rich in pasteurized cows milk. My brother and I both experienced lactose intolerance for some time and one day I decided to go cold turkey because of the cowspiracy feeling in my body. The break-off felt refreshing and beneficial to my overall well-being so I've stuck with it since age 14 or so. After some years, I really started to notice how the outer goods(once assimilated inwardly) can literally and acutely affect our organism on the energetic level. In turn, affecting our long term health, energy and vitality.

Science is starting to realize and uncover the inner and important relationship of the gut-brain connection. With this we can expand our idea of what it means to really feel, know, and enjoy the food you intake. Because I don't think enough of us experience that reality.

Let thy food be thy medicine and thy medicine be thy food. :thumb_up:

 

[Psilociraptor]

I won't get involved in the kerosene debate because I have put literally 0% of my time into researching it. I have no intentions to try it at this point in time (especially given the recent leads), nor do i have any intention of making decisions based off the CDC's guidelines :roll: