San Pedro Juice...What Now?

[un-known-ome]

What would you do in this situation? I despined and sliced up four feet of fresh cactus cuttings. I did not peel the cactus, however, and now I have a smoothie of pulverized cactus and the waxy skin, which is similar shape and size to nail clippings. I am attempting to powder and then encapsulate the San Pedro. If I boil this solution down to a crust, would I then be able to separate the waxy peels?

 

[mew]

BRO,
you fucked up

i suggest just bagging the whole mess and using it as fertilizer, atleast you wont try blending cacti again (the skin being on and not just blending the outter 5 mm of green flesh was your major miscalculation, now you cant even drink it without gettin nauseas as fuck)

for real, this is just a waste of time now



but if you are so inclined,
evap the whole mess, powder the crust, bassify with minimal water and starting pulling with nps, salt and clean

 

[SHroomtroll]

Yeah i think you could still extract that but i wouldnt drink it since it would be quite unpleasnt.

Don´t rush stuff like his, 4feet c cacti is alot of material to ruin.

 

[christian]

now I have a smoothie of pulverized cactus and the waxy skin, which is similar shape and size to nail clippings.

No worries mate, simply put that into a large pot wth water, the juice of a couple of lemons, and boil for 15 hours or so to make a cactus tea, then filter it through a muslin or t shirt. The skin will be seperated from the cactus tea, and it should be perfectly ok.

Then reduce to a drinkeable amount, sit back, relax, and SLURP...Yummy !!

 

[endlessness]

I hear pressure cooker greatly helps with such extractions because it efficiently makes alkaloids move to water layer and it makes the water and the other solid parts separate.

 

[un-known-ome]

Yeah i think you could still extract that but i wouldnt drink it since it would be quite unpleasnt.

Don´t rush stuff like his, 4feet c cacti is alot of material to ruin.

Yes it is, and the cactus itself came at a fair price. I wasn't necessarily rushing the process, but I was having issues peeling the skin and I was afraid of losing too much of the dark green outer ring, so I blended all of the cactus with the assumption that I could save it all later.

 

[un-known-ome]

I had another thought: Can I just soak this in acid, strain, reduce, strain, and then basify etc...? Like with mhrb powder?

 

[christian]

I don't think the skin is an issue because that shouldn't pass through a t shirt filter, and you should be able to extract only the "goodies". Whatever, you'll end up with all the alkaloids for sure.

So really, it might mean a long boil and filter, then possible reduction, but doesn't seems like a lost effort, unless you give up on seeing it through. After all it's not "rocket science" and simple enough to fix...8)

Here, take a look at this tek, by all means, it looks like you actually did everything RIGHT!!...

Erowid Cacti Vaults : San Pedro Preparation

A step by step description of how San Pedro cactus is prepared for consumption, by mjshroomer

www.erowid.org

 

[un-known-ome]

Is there a working link to the 69ron mescaline tek?

 

[MelCat]

Is there a working link to the 69ron mescaline tek?

Here ya are -> 69ron's D-Limonene Mescaline Extraction - DMT-Nexus Wiki

 

[un-known-ome]

Is there a working link to the 69ron mescaline tek?

Here ya are -> 69ron's D-Limonene Mescaline Extraction - DMT-Nexus Wiki

It's curious that I couldn't find that link, but thank you. I've managed to soak the cactus in vinegar now and I am in the process of reducing the volume and straining out the solids. My final question is this: is it wiser to drink this acidic solution or proceed with a mescaline extraction, and if so how? Again I am working with approximately four feet.

 

[Bezerker]

Why did you soak it in vinegar?

The alkaloids are already in salt form in their natural state. I don't think the vinegar was needed.

Just boil/strain 4x and reduce to syrup and enjoy:grin: . Or basify the syrup and extract.

I prefer syrup because its the full spectrum of alks and a "fuller" trip than pure mesc.

DONT THROW IT OUT AND USE AS FERT!!!!

 

[un-known-ome]

This is the result of 69ron's D-Limo Tek on 55 grams of cactus powder. Is this safe for consumption?

 

[Bezerker]

Wow...that stuff looks wierd. Is that mescaline acetate? I only use STB tek w/ xylene. Never had anything that looks like that, but my stuff is Mescaline Hcl.

How much does that stuff weigh? From 55g dried material, the best you could hope for is 500mgs of mescaline....maybe. If it weighs more than that, then you have some contamination.

If you can get the materials. Re A/B, pull w/ xylene and salt with Hcl. Even dark brown sanchez works and the excess Hcl will evaporate. Not that excess Hcl is a worry, its already in you stomach.

My 1st extraction looked like coffee grinds. It sort of melted the capsules, but it worked fine.

 

[un-known-ome]

Wow...that stuff looks wierd. Is that mescaline acetate? I only use STB tek w/ xylene. Never had anything that looks like that, but my stuff is Mescaline Hcl.

How much does that stuff weigh? From 55g dried material, the best you could hope for is 500mgs of mescaline....maybe. If it weighs more than that, then you have some contamination.

If you can get the materials. Re A/B, pull w/ xylene and salt with Hcl. Even dark brown sanchez works and the excess Hcl will evaporate. Not that excess Hcl is a worry, its already in you stomach.

My 1st extraction looked like coffee grinds. It sort of melted the capsules, but it worked fine.

I erred once again in the extraction process. I have now failed on two separate occasions. I have been treating this like a DMT extraction, which it is not. I have 200 more grams of cactus powder to go through, which spells several opportunities for redemption. Anyway, I'm going to take another shot at STB with D-limo, muriatic acid, anhydrous acetone and 99% IPA. I don't know the exact concentration of my muriatic acid, however, and my alternatives are vinegar or fumaric acid. Also, the STB method (69ron's tek) does not explicitly mention straining or filtering the cactus powder, and I found the sludge difficult to work with. Certainly my stirrer could not overcome the viscosity of the basified cactus powder.

 

[Bezerker]

I'm not familiar with the d-limo teks. I use xylene as the NP, you can use toluene as well.

Or just make some syrup with the powder and dose that.

Good Luck

 

[Ez]

I would just make tea. Despine, blend, and brew. I like a 2 hour brew, sttain, add water to pulp, breew, strain, and repeat. Reduce your liquid and drink. Depending on your cactus anyywhere from 6 inches up is a nice dose. I find San Pedro a bit mild, but Achuma has been fairly reliable. A foot made a nice start and two was fairly intense.

 

[un-known-ome]

I'm not familiar with the d-limo teks. I use xylene as the NP, you can use toluene as well.

Or just make some syrup with the powder and dose that.

Good Luck

I prefer D-Limonene as a nonpolar solvent to xylene, naptha, toluene, and the lot. Anyway, I think I made it through the last extraction alright BUT I evaporated in the oven on a metal baking dish and made the decision to scrap whatever mescaline I recovered because I could not seem to clean up the final product. I think I'll go with a pyrex dish in a dehydrator this time. I know that HCl is corrosive, but I didn't think a diluted solution of muriatic acid and water would be as corrosive as it is.