second attempt at Ac brew using egg white tannin pull.

[aj4722]

My friend needs help answering a few questions. to start he brewed 8 grams of ac into tea. 3 pulls at 30 minutes for each. Then he filtered it twice and allowed it to sit overnight the next day he ingested aprox 4 grams of Syrian rue. He then waited for 30 mins before retrieving his tea. examining his tea he noticed a second layer had formed on the bottom. He was unsure of what to do with the second layer. So he decided to leave it and only pour the top layer into his cup. about 20 mins after he consumed the tea he began to notice light effects and then he purged. He said the light effects remained for around 20 mins then left. did he not get full effects because he purged to soon or could it have something to do with the second layer of material or brewing times? I figured someone on here might have some advice I could pass along to him.



well my friend made a second attempt at making an ac brew. this time he decided on doing an egg white tannin pull. it made a huge difference in appearance. he will be testing later tonight. ps. sorry about the giant pics not really sure how to properly add them to the post

 

[concombres]

Looks about how my brews look after eggwhite cleaning.

How are you preparing your bark to be brewed? Acacia has been difficult to get a decent brew out of for me on several occasions but extraction seems to go much better.

 

[aj4722]

my friend bought very fine powdered bark to use.(very fine like a plume of dust comes out of the bag when opened).Well this time my friend took 15 grams of Ac and brewed 3 pulls at 45 mins for each. He filtered the mixture using a coffee filter (took a long time to filter). Then poured it all back into the now clean pan. Added 2 large egg whites and slowly brought it to a simmer (you can literally watch the egg whites doing their job). then skimmed the larger chunks of egg out. then filtered again with a new coffee filter (filtered much faster this time).

got a picture of the egg whites after their job was done but i wasn't sure if I should post or not.

 

[concombres]

my friend bought very fine powdered bark to use.(very fine like a plume of dust comes out of the bag when opened).Well this time my friend took 15 grams of Ac and brewed 3 pulls at 45 mins for each. He filtered the mixture using a coffee filter (took a long time to filter). Then poured it all back into the now clean pan. Added 2 large egg whites and slowly brought it to a simmer (you can literally watch the egg whites doing their job). then skimmed the larger chunks of egg out. then filtered again with a new coffee filter (filtered much faster this time).

got a picture of the egg whites after their job was done but i wasn't sure if I should post or not.

Weigh out the amount of acacia you want to use & pour in into a 2 liter bottle. Soak in water so it's covered & freeze/thaw 3x.
Freeze should take a day or so on the coldest setting in your freezer, it'll be rock hard & brittle.

Then proceed as you were brewing.
It may be your body chemistry, bark isn't releasing the dmt, or weak bark.

If that doesn't work try 1.5hr simmers.

If thats not doing the trick try more maoi & change timing between dosage of rue/caapi & acacia.

Start low when testing because if your acacia is decent quality 15g is an insane dose with propper mao inhibition. Maybe 2-3g max.



If you can't seem to get it to work right you can always extract the dmt from your acacia & use that in your brew rather than brewed acacia.
make sure to weigh with a scale accurate to 0.001g (1mg).

 

[aj4722]

I realize 15g may have been a lil overbored but I figured my freind should up the dosage because my friend has tried 2 different attempts and only achieved threshold effects. also what is this separation that keeps forming along the bottom. should it be decanted?

 

[concombres]

I realize 15g may have been a lil overbored but I figured my freind should up the dosage because my friend has tried 2 different attempts and only achieved threshold effects. also what is this separation that keeps forming along the bottom.

Yeah your lucky it was not working correctly. 15g could have been the equivelant of 225mg + dmt.
You do not want to go that far.

& the stuff that settles is just sludge & sediment that was too fine for the filter to catch.

You can decant off & do another boil or 2 on the sediment to get any actives trapped in it & leave yourself with a cleaner liuid.


But as i said before, your problem may be with not enough mao-inhibition or even weak bark.
If you have a decent supply i'd advise you extract 50g bark & see how much spice you get. That way you know how potent it is.
Try taking your rue on its own a couple times (make a brew this time, raw plant matter is hard to digest & can take hours to start working).
You should be able to feel the effects but not be so sick you cannot get out of bed.
3.5-4g is normally a decent dose.

If your extracting 1g dmt from 50g your acacia, is extremely potent.

 

[aj4722]

could you direct me to tek using lime instead of lye?

 

[concombres]

could you direct me to tek using lime instead of lye?

Q21Q21's Vinegar/Lime A/B Extraction Tek - DMT-Nexus Wiki

wiki.dmt-nexus.me

Not sure if dryteks work with acacia. I havn't tried & it's been a while since i've used acacia.

A quick google search should give you some idea of whether or not it's worked for others though.

 

[aj4722]

ty it will be a few days before my friend attempts an extraction. and tonight he will be testing his brew starting with 150ml out of 400ml of the 15g brew.

 

[concombres]

ty it will be a few days before my friend attempts an extraction. and tonight he will be testing his brew starting with 150ml out of 400ml of the 15g brew.

You may want to go the lye route with acacia. I looked a bit into it because i have some acacia i wont be using for quite a while & there doesnt seem to be much on dry tek with it.

From the looks of the one thread though the guy ended up with some crystals & a goo which is normal.
The goo can be cleaned up & yeild more crystals but if yeilds suffer it may be a waste.

I'd suggest trying the rue portion 15 minutes before the dmt portion as well. Maybe try both together, then rue followed by acacia 15 minutes later, then another day 30minutes inbetween & see what works best for you.

Either way, keep at it. Eventually you'll get things workimg well.
A breakthrough should not be expected every time.

I find even on sub breakthrough doses meditating in a dark room while laying down with eyes closed can bring you into a state in which your body seems to dissipate & your able to feel vibrations & hear sounds coming from seemingly nowhere which can be tuned like a frequency & be felt resonating through the entire feild of your consciousness. Moving around alot just seems to keep me focused on body & bodily sensation & i experience less profound states.
This seems to be true with all psychedellics for me at least.