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Dorge said:
caapi leaf or vine?
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I would advise not using caapi vine in any changa blend. It makes it hard to dose, the DMT doesnt adhere to the vine as well as leaf. Also it tastes pretty bad, woody and rather bitter. Caapi leaf can be hard to find, so if all you have is the vine you can still use it to enhance your blend with the spirit of the plant.

For 4G of changa, ex. 1g blue lotus, 1g calea, 2g DMT, I soak ~5g of vine in about 90ml of acetone for 3-5 days. Then I use the enhanced acetone to enhance my leaf blend.

I smoke out of a GVG, so it may be different for me, as ive heard many people say the vine is just fine. But as far as im concerned, trying to make the vine directly part of your blend is a mistake. It just doesnt work well.
 
This is my most recent variation on the Changa blend - and it seems to be very deep and healing if last night was anything to go by ..! I think a lot of Ayahuasca Harmalas are the key here:

Mugwort
Peppermint
Caapi leaf

Jimjam spice is melted in a tincture/iso extract of Caapi vine. The tincture was made by powderizing bark and mixing with sodium carbonate, made into a paste, dried out, and added to a jar of iso alcohol. This was left for around 2 months before being used. Also, a previous tincture, with a mix of caapi leaf and vine was added. The herbs above were then dropped in and allowed to dry out.

This mix was used in a little ceremony with friends, and it felt like each time we had a round with a joint, the harmalas were building up more, so we were going deeper each time. 4 rounds in all. Lots of healing and insight was had.
 
worldbridger

Mix -

50% B. caapi leaf
15% prisniparni leaf
10% B. caapi vine bark and roots
10% Zornia sp. leaf
5% Peyote
5% Blue Lotus petals
5% Jasminium sp.leaf

Extract -

IPA extracted Ayahuasca sediment (Vine and Chacruna brew).

Spice -

DMT oxide

% mix (Spice to Mix)-

40%:60%
 
It is used to counteract the effect of poison.... huh...
AND peyote?!

well... the effects are?
 
Prisniparni is used to treat coughs in India. It grows native where I live so I grow it in the garden from wild collected seeds. I have used in as an addition to Aya brews and found it to be very light and clear on the breath.

Both the Zornia sp. and the Jasminium sp. grow native where I live(where the noise from). The Zornia has a fruity mellon scent and Jasminium smells like..... well Jasmine.

The peyote came from my own garden. I figure the ca. 60 phenylethylamine alkaloids couldn't go astray and I don't quite have enough material to have her travel far on her own.

The vine is grown in my own garden and so is the Chacruna, so most of the materials are very familiar with me.

The name of this mix "worldbridger" is not only in reference to a metaphysical sense, but in a geographical sense as well. Many of these herbs would have never worked together in the past and the beauty of Changa is the ease and relative safety that plant tanglers can work their magic.

I've not yet worked this mix to its full potential and have only had a small test to determine later dose rates. But so far she proves to be an insightful mix with a fruity after taste. Affects lasted longer then I expected for the small amount had and my throat was soon soothed and cleared with a healing dose of phlegm.

Now with my experiential approval the real test will be undertaken during a changa ceremony partaken with a group of experienced seekers tonight. The real test is not the "effects" but how she "affects".

I'll keep you posted.
 
Interesting please keep us posted this might go into the changa blends on the site... its such a alchemy, those real innovative blends really need a good test. SWIM is excited to hear about it!
Tell us a bit about how you do your changa ceremonies as well... that might require a whole post of its own!
 
Turns out she's a magnificent blend. Doesn't come on as fast as some others I've experienced but lasts the distance. First pipe I had didn't really do much except cause a slight shift and leave me a little underwhelmed with what she had to offer. Second pipe through me into a fractal world were red, green and blue cubes formed mescaline typed bead patterns in the center of my vision. These retreated leaving me to observe the other partakers morphing into a blue fuzzy rounded outline (more of what I expect from changa). Other experiences during the night included lost confusion, confrontational introspection and no effects at all (I stopped smoking when this happened).

Given my fairly open views on the evolution of entheogen use in the modern world, I left the ceremony without specific direction so I could learn from the natural progression within the group. Turns out that unlike Aya, which has a longer duration and which most participants are experiencing the same stage of the journey, Changa peaks quickly leading into the integration period. This leaves partakers wanting to soon vocalize their experience to share with and gain support from the rest of the group, resulting in a disjointed interaction where some participants are at the peak of the journey, others are integrating it and others still haven't begun.

Given this experience I feel there are a few options to better lead the group in future ceremonies. Either have everyone smoke at the same time or have everyone agree to remain silent until the final participant has entered the integration stage of the journey. This will allow everyone to experience their own journey which can then be integrated within the group. This process can be repeated as many times as participants feel is required to have worked through and brought back the knowledge given and shared.

I would love to hear if others have conducted Changa ceremonies in this manner and the strengths and weaknesses it presents. I'll run through it with the group in a few weeks and let you all know how it progresses.
 
BGTM236 said:
Dorge said:
caapi leaf or vine?
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I would advise not using caapi vine in any changa blend. It makes it hard to dose, the DMT doesnt adhere to the vine as well as leaf. Also it tastes pretty bad, woody and rather bitter. Caapi leaf can be hard to find, so if all you have is the vine you can still use it to enhance your blend with the spirit of the plant.
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SWIMs gotta say adding small twirly slivers of caapi vine to the batch is juuuust fine...
A freind in Oz was renound for his "twigy" changa blends they had lots of caapi vine in them... He swears by it and SWIM agrees it is a helpful addition in increasing the over all effects. The addition of the harmaline in the vine can make it lat a bit longer.
SWIM adds the vine trimmings at the very end evap period... so they blend in with the ethanol at the end process.
 
rahlii said:
Given my fairly open views on the evolution of entheogen use in the modern world, I left the ceremony without specific direction so I could learn from the natural progression within the group. Turns out that unlike Aya, which has a longer duration and which most participants are experiencing the same stage of the journey, Changa peaks quickly leading into the integration period. This leaves partakers wanting to soon vocalize their experience to share with and gain support from the rest of the group, resulting in a disjointed interaction where some participants are at the peak of the journey, others are integrating it and others still haven't begun.

Given this experience I feel there are a few options to better lead the group in future ceremonies. Either have everyone smoke at the same time or have everyone agree to remain silent until the final participant has entered the integration stage of the journey. This will allow everyone to experience their own journey which can then be integrated within the group. This process can be repeated as many times as participants feel is required to have worked through and brought back the knowledge given and shared.

I would love to hear if others have conducted Changa ceremonies in this manner and the strengths and weaknesses it presents. I'll run through it with the group in a few weeks and let you all know how it progresses.
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Sounds like the blend worked well for you!

SWIM came up with a four pipes ceremony when it is with a group of four or more. Four pipes each dedicated to a direction and passed around with some one to help with that as well as load the bowl. every one smoking at once is good... problem is some people will wish to keep smoking... and it can go one for hours if one wishes. SWIM thinks it is always best that people sit and hold space for others if they are done with their process. SWIM thinks that this helps people learn from the doing, from being compassionate. Holding space is really important.
Then after words people talk...

SWIM has also worked with it just to do healing work with a couple of folks... and in that respect its just whooosh! the healing work gets done fast and furious, gets right to the point and gets it done, the guidance to the healer and "patient" is really direct and strong with changa, the bowl gets loaded and smoked as often as is needed to get it done right then and there. SWIM works in a sort of syncretic mesa tradition sort of way... learned from san pedro... SO there is lots of that work done, right there in front of the mesa, ritual cleansing ect...
 
BTW... Chaliponga makes for a great base to evap your caapi leaf or leaf and vine or vine or other harmalas onto. It really enhances the potency.
 
Dorge said:
thats interesting what are the effects?
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SWIM changed the recipe, he replace passiflora incarnata to caapi copy freebase for a more consistant harmala dosage...
There is something dreamy and very aerian like being in weightlessness in a spaceship along with other scientists/psychics doctors ;)
This is something SWIM need to invistigate more. It seems much less mashed up than the same mix without the caapi extract. There is a loving energy in the caapi that was lacking in the enhanced leaf, this was more sharp and brutal in its manifestation.

He doesn't think the plain passionflower were enough to produce MAO inhibition in his case. This time the effects were much more meaningfull, intelligent, constructive, longerlasting ...

He is now convinced Caapi will be his new medecine. So much work can be done with it, it just need to be careful what he ask =)
 
rOm said:
Dorge said:
thats interesting what are the effects?
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SWIM changed the recipe, he replace passiflora incarnata to caapi copy freebase for a more consistant harmala dosage...
There is something dreamy and very aerian like being in weightlessness in a spaceship along with other scientists/psychics doctors ;)
This is something SWIM need to invistigate more. It seems much less mashed up than the same mix without the caapi extract. There is a loving energy in the caapi that was lacking in the enhanced leaf, this was more sharp and brutal in its manifestation.

He doesn't think the plain passionflower were enough to produce MAO inhibition in his case. This time the effects were much more meaningfull, intelligent, constructive, longerlasting ...

He is now convinced Caapi will be his new medecine. So much work can be done with it, it just need to be careful what he ask =)
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thats awesome!
yeah i think the concensus with passion flower is that it would have to be a super concentrate like 50X extract to make it really work as well as caapi or rue.

Thats awesome you caught the wave though!
 
Tip: After cleaning your spice device, add a few drops of Florida Water, it's an extra non negligeable cleanse and aroma.
And a question: SWIM has both menthol crystal and pepper mint natural oil, are both good to use in changa blends or just the mint crystals ?
 
rOm said:
Tip: After cleaning your spice device, add a few drops of Florida Water, it's an extra non negligeable cleanse and aroma.
And a question: SWIM has both menthol crystal and pepper mint natural oil, are both good to use in changa blends or just the mint crystals ?
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SWIM always adds kannanga or florida water to the ethanol the changa evaps in.
it is the most amazing complimentary quality. it helps one bloom.
 
BloomSoon:

This changa mix has been greatly inspired by Changuana, it defers only by its lack of Mapacho which has been replaced by a few "spice" to twist the breath in an amazingly flowerly note.

The base is 1 gram Herbal blend : 1 gram Spice : 0.3 harmalas freebase

- 800 mg Mullein
- 100 mg White Sage
- 100 mg Lavender
- Pinhead of Menthol Crystals
- A few drops of Florida water

- 1000 mg Jimjam (from a tincture which contains pinch of salvia divinorum tincture and bufotenin) which has clear yellow, caramel and green highlights : very Yummy !
- 200 mg Harmaline freebase
- 100 mg Tetrahydroharmine
 
I will be using Helichrysum odoratissimum- (Imphepho) in a blend soon. here is a description. The smoke is inhaled by traditional healers (sangomas) to induce a trance state. Smoke from burning leaves is used as a sedative and is very helpful for insomnia. It is inhaled for pain relief, and also used as a calming tea. It is widely burned and inhaled in the Transkei as a protective cleanser, and is a very good smudge.
It will be a mix consisting of Blue Lotus,Pau,Imphepho.Caapi twig shavings and rue harmaloids. Not sure of the measurements yet or the name. That will all be coming soon.Suggestioms could be helpful.
 
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