seperation of 5meo and N,N

[greymatter]

if one does an extraction on phalaris grass, one should get a mix of N,N and 5meo(right?)...having this mixture, how would one seperate the two?

 

[Infundibulum]

Thanks for the info 69ron!

this is all very interesting, but still not exactly the chem process that i was looking for
i like both 5meo and N,N...and have mixed them together but my curiosty is the chemistry
thanx

SWIM does not know a good tek so there's not much he can say. There was a tek employing the formation of dmt-citrate and 5-meo citrate by 69ron but it does not work as well. The tek was based on the apparent insolubility of 5meo citrate in acetone as opposed to the solubility of dmt citrate in acetone. The tek is here. After these attempts, no much thought has been put into separating the two.

The other possible route is sublimation by using their different boiling points as gooldenbloo said.

 

[69ron]

this is all very interesting, but still not exactly the chem process that i was looking for
i like both 5meo and N,N...and have mixed them together but my curiosty is the chemistry
thanx

They have radically different melting points. Perhaps that could be somehow employed?

They can be vaporized at different temperatures and easily separated that way. I believe an easy way to do that is to put the two in a solvent that boils at 80 C like DMT does and another solvent that boils at like 160 C or so. The DMT will carry over with the solvent that boils at 80 C and I think it will condense with the solvent, but the 5-MeO-DMT will not because it vaporizes at a much higher temperature, I think something like 160 C? As soon as the distillation temperature goes up to about 100 C, you turn the system off. I’m not sure if this will work in reality though. If the DMT doesn’t condense with the solvent, it will all be lost, but at least you’ll be left with pure 5-MeO-DMT in the remaining solvent.

 

[yayscience]

Do the crystals just sublimate? Do they not have a liquid state?

 

[69ron]

No, they do NOT sublimate. They might under a vacuum though. I think I recall DMT will under vacuum.

 

[greymatter]

.....QUOTE........No, they do NOT sublimate. They might under a vacuum though. I think I recall DMT will under vacuum.

i had asked this question in another post but nobody has answered it...
i have access to a vacuume system in a lab in the university where i work...what will happen if i dry/recover the solvent under vacuume...will it "sublimate"...which i take to mean "go kablooey"
what would be a safe vacuume measure...the one in the lab can acheives up to 28 measures of mercury