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Silene Capensis - Xhosa Dream Herb

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I love dream root! It is the only psychoactive substance I've taken which has ZERO body load, which is awesome!

Experience seems to differ from person to person. Here are some of my experiences, contrary to what other have been saying....

= Dream root DOES have an effect on waking consciousness. It makes colors more vibrant, and emotions enhanced, and imagination free flowing. So if I feel really good, and go for a nice walk, I'll take some root to enhance it. Wouldn't want to take it on a bad day.

= the effects are noticeable and wear off after about 4-5 hours, so I would think taking it upon waking would not do anything for your dreams the next night. I don't know.

= I haven't been able to use it and get to sleep. My mind becomes too active to sleep after taking dream root, so although I haven't had any dreams on ADR, it does noticeably increase hypnagogic imagery. I'll be trying to sleep, and visions of spirals and stuff keep popping up, can't get to sleep.

= there is no purgative effect from taking more than 0.5 grams. One reference post mentioned vomitting. I imagine you'd have to swallow a hell of a lot. I've taken 3g and there was no purge or stomach upset at all. Keep in mind though, I just wet the stuff and chew it and suck on it, till it has no more taste. I don't swallow the root itself.

= so instead of using ADR to increase dreams, I use it as a meditation enhancer. The hypnagogic imagery can be strong. It's maybe about half as strong as a sublingual salvia trip, except no body load.
 
I've finished my experiments with this stuff. I'm afraid my dosage wasn't consistent, because of trying to switch methods to reduce the negative effects etc. Here's the rundown:

-Day 1: 0.3g chewed, held in the mouth then swallowed SC root, evening
Effects while awake as posted before, and the strongest while waking. Difficulty sleeping that night.
-Day2: 0.3g SC root, morning
Chewed then swallowed, but not held in the mouth long. Effects less noticeable but similar. Difficulty sleeping again.
-Day 3: foam drunk from 1g SC in water (prep as posted before), morning and evening
Strong effects.
-Day 4: foam from yesterday's mixture, morning and evening
Less strong but noticeable effects.
-Day 5: foam, morning and evening
-Day 6: foam in the morning, then I split the mixture into 4 doses, filtered, and drank one dose in the morning and one at night.
-Day 7: 2nd and 3rd doses of the filtered solution in am and pm (slight effects still noticeable upon ingestion), and foam from new mixture in the evening made from my final 0.4g of SC.
-Day 8: foam in the morning, then filtered the mixture and dosed a third in the evening.
-Day 9: second and third doses of the filtered mixture.
Effects lingered for a couple of days.

I did not enjoy this experiment. Sometimes taking SC made me feel subtly powerful, stimulated, slightly more irritable, more emotionally aggressive, I imagined it felt like how steroids might feel. At the beginning I had felt dreamy and spiritual, but later on I more just felt subtly but tensely wired. Found myself tensing my jaw a lot. I lost the humble ayawaskan spiritualness I had felt before the experiment and began feeling more earthy, which was neither a good nor a bad thing... went from feeling a little too humble to a little too forceful. I did wonder if this was a biological healing of sorts because I did feel more like 'my old self' this way, but that's wild speculation.

I was tired the whole time from poor sleep. I did remember some dreams, three from one night when I'd had the most SC that day, one on most nights, two on a few and none on others. I'd say this would average out at one dream a night. Dreams were not any more vivid nor lucid than before. I only remembered the dreams because SC made me wake up a few times most mornings. I think it was just waking-induced remembering, in which case the effect can be produced with a few alarm clocks instead of a substance if I really wanted to remember dreams.

Faeces were noticably more solid during the experiment, though not uncomfortably so, and went back to usual once experiment was over.

I acknowledge that my experiment was short, but I ran out of material, and while I'm interested in what the effects of longer use might be, I didn't like the tiredness, increased difficulty getting to sleep, and waking during sleep. The fact that people say the changes are permanent makes me not want to experiment further, because the state that SC put me in was not conducive to constructive personal development. Maybe my dosage was slightly too high, but I was trying to simulate traditional use, because I believe tribal people do things a certain way for a reason.

Verdict: on the basis of this short trial, balancing pros and cons, SC did not seem like a useful plant helper for me personally. Still, I'm glad I tried it out and there hasn't seemed to be lasting negative effects. My previous humble state has not returned, which could be good or bad, I don't know but I'm happy with that, but I can't attribute this definitely to the root, because moods change naturally anyway so it could be coincidence.
 
If any of you out there feel like you've had your mind a little blown by DMT, or are feeling too humble or less secure in reality due to the monumentality of hyperspatial experience, having minor trouble with long-term integration etc, maybe try giving silene a try and report back... because Dreamer has been really grounded since his short silene dieting.

It would be good to see if anyone else gets this, or if it was just coincidence or something else was responsible.
 
To me it did a great job at first then after the two first weeks, the effects were more subtle. I didn't do a particular diet, but used the SC to do some dreamwork (understand why am I dreaming this or that)
The first two weeks I was energised (this and guarana few times a week) and I was surprised to feel the day color much more pronounced. I was uplifted by hte beauty of the spectacle which eventually faded away...

All the time, I didn't ceased to think it's not worth the trouble but I must admit towards the end I didn't have much apparent benefits from it.
I drink the SC straight in water every morning for two months. Maybe I will go for the foam another time.
I still think this herb is valuable and work on subtle side of perception and suggestion (the power of dreams are more in tune with what we ask for when using this root).
 
"= the effects are noticeable and wear off after about 4-5 hours, so I would think taking it upon waking would not do anything for your dreams the next night. I don't know.

= I haven't been able to use it and get to sleep. My mind becomes too active to sleep after taking dream root, so although I haven't had any dreams on ADR, it does noticeably increase hypnagogic imagery. I'll be trying to sleep, and visions of spirals and stuff keep popping up, can't get to sleep.
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fnog
its taken in the morning because its effects take time to build.
its used in the mornings every day for best dreaming fx - taking it before bed keeps some up
 
Silene Capensis Documented Affects

Evening of the Third Day

My dreams have become incredibly vivid and intensely real. I’m very much taken aback by the remarkable shift in my dreams. My sensory perception and awareness is breathtaking. The visual colour pallet is astounding, I feel like I have finally woken up for the first time in my dreams. Silene Capensis is the most powerful dream herb I have ever encountered or used. The lucidity is phenomenal.

Evening of the Fourth Day

My dreams are amazingly lifelike. Geckos and lizards were moving and crawling through my dreamscape. Their skin was morphing with orange and green layers dancing through their scales. They climbed around my shoulders and my neck, moving in a downwards spiral. Instantly blindingly bright blue butterflies filled my vision. Thousands upon thousands of them were beating their wings in slow motion. Their wings started to tickle my eyelids and my cheeks gently. I felt so safe and warm comforted in my own soft giggles. I am immersed in absolute pure joy and contentment, each day the intensity and lucidity increases immensely, my dreams feel just as real as my waking life...

Evening of the Fifth Day

Things seem to be getting stranger and stranger. A dandelion baby blue sparkler plant appeared in my drams, it was shooting off bright baby blue sparkles into a dark liquorish black sky. Silene Capensis seems to influence my dreams with specifically natural flora and fauna, I find this particularly intriguing. The beauty and clarity within my dreams becomes more and more acute each day. My daily sensory perception as well as my focus and concentration have been significantly heightened. As each day comes to an end, I am filled with intense excitement to see what beautiful, surreal and lucid journeys await me...


Much Peace and Sunshine
 
Waow Aegle !

I'm starting Dreamwork with UVUMA-OMHLOPE - SYNAPTOLEPIS KIRKII : we should come up with a handier name.
This root is ammazing too.
I just want to compare a bit.
I've noticed with both SC and Uvuma that I start each cycle by being confront with dark side of my soul. I know I have to work on this one, what I see during my dreams is somehow reflected to a much lower intensity in my daylife...

This is actually very intriguing...
Day 3.
 
rom - i call the kirkii - white root - i made a post on it a while ago and now all my friends enjoy it - amazing plant.
 
Phlux- said:
rom - i call the kirkii - white root - i made a post on it a while ago and now all my friends enjoy it - amazing plant.
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Phlux, it's of curse your post which inpired me looking into this other oenerigen, I was at that time working with Silene Capensis.
After I finished my batch with SC, I missed the richness of dreams, so I start to take 4-5 Inoxia seeds to see its potnetial. It is quite good at dream enhancing.
But now with WHite Roots ... I start to feel fresh and full of healing potential...
Aegle, I didn't sleep longer with SC but was finding my sleeptime much more rewarding, so I could stay longer. However, I had to wake up early at work three mornings a week (sleeping at work), so I couldn't sleep as long as I could.
 
Day 1

In the morning, a little less than half a teaspon was swallowed with some water. Mild psychoactive effects on the waking consciousness were felt after a couple of minutes. I started to get very tired in the evening. Dream recall was bad. There has been one special occurence though. After a couple hours of sleep, i would wake up to find myself in my room but it wasn't dark but lit in daylight. I then would see mild open eye visuals before I'd drift back to sleep. Upon waking up in the morning i felt like my dreams gave me a confident boost and i felt encouraged to get dressed. But as i said...almost no dream recall.

I will keep you updated if i plan to pursue this further. I've taken my dose today so there will be at least one more update.

Day 2

Same dose as before (turns out to be roughly 100mg). The anti-anxiety proportions of the plant are now appearant. Eye contact is easier ...this is always a way to measure anxiety levels for me. I'm still getting very tired at the 4pm mark. In the morning i would wake beeing somewhat tired, but in a "refreshed" way. Hard to explain. It's not tiredness because my bloodsugar and bloodpressure is low or because i dont wanna wake. I feel really tired. Dreams were present and plenty. It felt like I've slept for ages...bbut i can't remember my dreams. Like there is a blockage of some kind. Day 3 will see an increase in dosage to 289mg. Not sure how long i'll keep going because i don't really fancy the psychoactive effects on my waking consciousness.
 
iv asked around locally - witchdoctors etc about ppl eating the silene capensis- they had never heard of that being done and said it should rather be prepared as it has always been prepped.
just out of curiosity - why are ppl eating this root ?
 
Because its impossible to foam ist up. Perhaps i shouldn't eat it. There must be a reason the traditional preperation is different. In the best case, eating it makes you nauseous...the worst case scenario would be, that there are other, toxic compunds present you don't want to ingest.
 
rOm said:
Waow Aegle !

I'm starting Dreamwork with UVUMA-OMHLOPE - SYNAPTOLEPIS KIRKII : we should come up with a handier name.
This root is ammazing too.
I just want to compare a bit.
I've noticed with both SC and Uvuma that I start each cycle by being confront with dark side of my soul. I know I have to work on this one, what I see during my dreams is somehow reflected to a much lower intensity in my daylife...

This is actually very intriguing...
Day 3.
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Rom

I have also taken Uvuma Omhlope, it has some really interesting affects that I have observed. My dreams become far more lucid and lifelike, I also experience something rather strange. While I'm dreaming I experience bright white lightening flashes that overlay my dreams, which I find greatly fascinating as Uvuma is called the white agreement. I look forward to reading your future reports and findings friend...


Much Peace and Respect
 
I've been having those white flashes of lightning nearly every night before I fall asleep recently. Does anyone else have any more insights about what this is or what it means? Every night as I'm going to sleep I encounter stranger and stranger conditions. I keep thinking that I'm getting closer to successfully lucid dreaming or something.
 
Day 3

~280mg orally. This time I had a definite effect on my dreams. They weren't more "vivid" and i couldn't recall them better, but it definatly seems to change the dream content in a very strange way. I would watch the dream like a movie and it was professionally cut. At the same time, i could feel the dream characters life, as if i would watch someones life story through the interface of a dream. Then I would wake up in the middle of the night with a strange prickling sensation on my forehead and i couldn't get back to sleep for an hour, because the dream felt so strange.

Sequence one

I'm in my room but theres another bed at the end of it. I know, some old person is lying on the bed and that i have to check if she's dead yet. So i pull the sheets away and I would see this BIG WHITE alien-esque, tumerous head. I get to download some pictures of her life and i feel like i'm contacting a real, dying person. Then, she gives me a pretty spooky grin. The dreams start....
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Sequence two

I'm at the top of a building with several police vans parked. Underneath is a big group of people demonstrating. Thousands. Quickly, the Situation escalates and a cop chases me from the rooftop, down the streets, insulting me while he hits me on the head with his stick. We arrive somewhere and i get to look at him - i notice that i went to school with him, and he also recognizes me. Then, I would see the path of his life. Why he's turned into a brutal cop. That his rich father always humiliated him and that he couldnt decide between admiration and hate when it comes to him. I see him in his fathers office on a yacht, getting humiliated in front of the personel. He always hates homosexuals and i look like one, he says.
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Sequence three

I sit in a big conference room and some old friend of mine shows me and some other guests a tiny box. "Its a time travel machine" he says and wants us to try it. I'm totally in. "But, there are some risks involved". He happens to have this blind and dumb sister who happens to be some sort of psychic. She always knows if something is going wrong as soon as the time travelers are gone. I have two brothers and we're going in together. ZAP. ..i'm in THE VOID. ZAP ...i'm back in the room. Travel failed...my brothers - missing. Then, we decide to go back in time to the moment we decide to go back in time, steal my brothers from this timeline, thus preventing them to disappear in this black void forever.
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Every sequence had this strong spooky feeling attached. Like i would really tap into somethin very real. That the dream was just a symbolic interface of some sort, to actual truths. This prickling sensation on my forehead, where the "third eye" is located could be a sign of me recieving energys of some sort.

Interesting herb, but very spooky. Will continue with a lower dose today only because it just starts to work and i don'T want to waste the opportunity. I don't like the physical side effects. SC makes me tired ....
 
VERY VERY INTERSTING:!:
Are the effects really PERMENANT:?:

I want to keep a dream journal and record 5 months of dreams. One month before dosing till one month after. The three months in between would be the silene usage. Calea never did anything for me, but after dmt I've have a major increase in vividness and lucidity in dreams.
 
Evening Glory said:
I recently found a rather large amount of Silene dioica growing wild. Many of you live in areas where you will find it or Silene latifolia, another close relative. I just now recently tried eating the leaves, and they do have the same effect as Silene capensis leaves does!

Therefore it seems like it contains the same saponins. I will try to see if it has the same effect on dreams. :) I don't know if Silene latifolia is active, but I will post if I find it!
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Is that Silene dioica a potent as Silene Capensis? I've seen it around here in nature so I'd like to try it out :) You say you eat the leaves, how do they taste? They don't make you sick or nothing.
Have you tried to use the root?
 
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