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Smoking DMT after ingesting harmaline?

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I've tried it once, and I can say I felt enhanced and lenghtened/strengthened effects, and I've read reports of others doing it with success, suggestion take the syrian rue orally, or harmala alkaloids which ever you prefer, then wait 30-45 mins (maybe an hour if you had a meal within 6 hours of dosing the harmalas. But don't over do it if this is a first time experience for you. Smoked DMT alone is quite powerful as I'm sure you're aware but, adding in the MAOI adds not only new depth and intensity, but also addition traits to the trip than NN-DMT would have by itself. Be safe and enjoy.
 
Oral harmalas (Rue tea) + vaped DMT after 30-60 minutes worked best for me! Much less DMT needed, much longer duration and huge afterglow, a more 'liquid' and warmer experience.

Sublingual absorption of harmala extract as a pre-dose also works.

I'll never (if ever) smoke DMT again without the body being thoroughly harmala'd!
 
I agree I won't smoke DMT again unless I'm on Harmalas except in the case of using LSD or cactus; where those phen's effects serve the purpose of drawing out and making the experience easier to take in and longer to deal with, much like the harmalas.
 
Rue+DMT vapor can be extremely overwhelming and last an hour or more. I once drank 7g of rue and had a toke and was destroyed
Dose for vaporizing harmala alkaloid extracts can vary greatly depending on purity
 
tryptographer said:
Sublingual absorption of harmala extract as a pre-dose also works.

I'll never (if ever) smoke DMT again without the body being thoroughly harmala'd!
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Same here. I feel like I can work in the space more. Still an intense come up but I feel like the teacher aspect is stronger, less of a bungie jump, more of a journey.
 
I'm a fan of the harmala smoalked DMT combination. I've been trying to write more standardized trip reports, but the one I'm including here is missing some information, which I've included below. Anyhow, this is how one of my more memorable experiences with this combo went.

Sex: M
Weight: 84kg
Last Meal: 6 hours prior (can't remember what, but probably potatoes and eggs with coffee)
Set: Very intentionally ready for anything
Setting: Adequately described in the report
Dosage: 30 mg Freebase Harmalas, sublingual + ~120 mg *Orange* DMT, toulene-extracted from M. tenuiflora

Experience Report: 30 mg Harmala Freebase sublingual + ~120 mg N,N-DMT

I prepared my space all day--all week, if you count the work and life obligations I dutifully discharged, writing overdue emails, speaking with loved ones. It had been a touch more than three months since my last experience with DMT. It was a full moon, which often seems like an auspicious time...
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TOPIC: Oral ingestion of herb (MAOI extraction from plant needed before ingestion?) +plus+ vaped freebase DMT.

What is the viability of ingesting powdered banisteriopsis caapi in a gelatin cap to metabolize MAOI in order to extend a vaped DMT trip? In fasting state in the morning, I tried 4g powdered BC in a gel cap, waited for an hour, vaped 10mg of DMT, and the ingested BC did nothing to affect the DMT trip. Am I incorrect in thinking that the powdered BC can simply be ingested for the body to metabolize MAOI from the powder in order to potentiate the vaped DMT? Or do I need to extract MAOI from the powdered BC first before it is ingested?

I wonder if vaping DMT sooner, like 15-20 minutes after ingesting powdered BC, would have the desired effect. A gelatin cap with or without water will dissolve in the stomach in 10-15 minutes.

I've been searching, and this is the best thread I could find on the topic.
 
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hyperturtle said:
TOPIC: Oral ingestion of herb (MAOI extraction from plant needed before ingestion?) +plus+ vaped freebase DMT.

What is the viability of ingesting powdered banisteriopsis caapi in a gelatin cap to metabolize MAOI in order to extend a vaped DMT trip? In fasting state in the morning, I tried 4g powdered BC in a gel cap, waited for an hour, vaped 10mg of DMT, and the ingested BC did nothing to affect the DMT trip. Am I incorrect in thinking that the powdered BC can simply be ingested for the body to metabolize MAOI from the powder in order to potentiate the vaped DMT? Or do I need to extract MAOI from the powdered BC first before it is ingested?

I wonder if vaping DMT sooner, like 15-20 minutes after ingesting powdered BC, would have the desired effect. A gelatin cap with or without water will dissolve in the stomach in 10-15 minutes.

I've been searching, and this is the best thread I could find on the topic.
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It would seem there may be an issue with the hydration of the caapi powder in the stomach, as well as the question of whether much, if any, of the alkaloids get absorbed via the stomach as opposed to the small intestine.

Also, depending on the strength of the caapi, 4g could be too weak of a dose to do anything. As I understand it, caapi is typically about a tenth of the potency of Syrian rue.

Brewing or extracting may be unavoidable here - you're unlikely to want to swallow 20g of powdered caapi, encapsulated or not.

An additional footnote on the fasting condition - people have often reported that eating a small amount of buttered bread or croissant stimulates the digestion sufficiently to get things going, but how that translates between oral DMT + harmalas and your "semivaporhuasca", I can't say.
 
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