Smoking DMT and your lungs

[joebono]

I look at DMT in the glass pipe and see how it forms pretty crystals after it cools. I wonder what it does in our lungs. Is it possible that it is like asbestos and does some sort of micro damage that will surface in 20 years when our lungs have decided to give the fuck up from all the abuse. I guess we are human guinea pigs and hopefully someone will study our lungs after we die and post their findings on this forum. Until then, smoke away just like those poor bastards who used to have asbestos snowball fights in the factories of old.

...these ideas were brought to you by caapi and chali....

 

[1664]

I hope not. People have been smoking it since the 60's though right? I would imagine this would be recognised by now if it were the case.

 

[joebono]

True, except that there is a much larger audience for DMT today and a wider pool of participants from which to draw data. Back then even most psychedelic enthusiasts rarely came across DMT so long term effects are hard to come by.

 

[WSaged]

Well if you are using clean pure DMT, not dirty yellow oily stuff, it is being absorbed by you lungs pretty completely.
Although the other contaminates & plant oils in a dirtier extract may, or may not absorb so readily. And may, or may not cause damage like you are suggesting.

Remember, your cooled down pipe is at, or around room temp....the inside of your lungs are not. I don't remember the exact temp of the average human body right off hand, but it is somewhere in the upper 90's I think....maybe 98-point-something. It is also not a dry environment like the inside of a cooled down glass pipe.

So anyway, the chances of DMT crystallizing in your lungs & causing problems 30 years from now is pretty low.
Although I guess it also would have to do with how often you are putting it in your lungs, how much is put in there at a time & what other substances you are inhaling regularly & how much.

Not to mention, people have been smoking DMT since at very least the mid-to-late 60's!!
I also remember an article in some archeology journal about scientists finding a small pipe in the ruins of some ancient civilization in South America, or Africa (I think), that had traces of N,N-DMT and/or 5-Meo-DMT resin in it!!

That doesn't mean it is 100% safe of course, but smoking vaporized DMT is not anything new.
Leary & the Merry Pranksters both talked & wrote about smoking it quite a bit...Leary wrote a lot about it in fact!
DMT was really rather popular in the more spiritually/scientifically oriented circles of heads back in the 60's & not all that hard to come by if you were around the Haight, or Berkly area.
Like LSD, it was not illegal at the time & there were a number of chem students right at Berkly who were getting rich from synthing LSD, STP & DMT & a number of other three lettered psychedelics that were not nearly as enjoyable as the big-rig, LSD.
Owsley was one of these people, he was said to have only tried his own LSD once, or twice (freaked out) & that he really got off on making the most pure acid possible & of course was one of the few people from that crew that actually came out of the 60's with a substantial bank account.
(He also designed the Greatful Deads big-ass sound system...before those things were common-place)
Oops, sorry for the tangent....


Cheers!
WS

 

[bonestoner]

you aren't a dcctor...i don't think? So that's all heresay. I think it has the potential to re-crystallize in the lungs. the melting point of DMT freebase is around 150F so by your estimates of the human body being around 98F(which is accurate)it could recrystallize in the lungs. plus its common sense.

 

[tele]

I have always considered DMT safe and quite smooth for the lungs but that opinion changed a bit after this: I did a vaporization session(maybe 10 doses of DMT and 2 small bits of good pure hashish after the 10) and after about some 5 hours I got really bloody mucus to spit out(first pure thick blood) and there was blood in my mucus for about 7 hours. I bet this was due to my session... I doubt it was blood originating from the nose.
But two times I applied too much heat to my GVG and once it made me cough up the dose(rare thing to happen for me) which could have affected it. Just a warning for session smoalkers, sometimes less is moar.
I still will do sessions(up to 10 doses) but will be careful of applying too much heat and combining cannabis to the mix. I smoalk 1-3 times a month and I tend to do sessions because when I'm in the mood I like to "go there" several times.
At least now I know it's not the best thing for the lungs:lol:
PS. It was completely worth it8)

 

[○]

The only time dmt was ever harsh for me was when I first started on the path....lighter was wayy too close (even though I thought it was a good distance). That's..more times than not the issue.

A great way for people beginning is making an enhanced leaf blend or changa. Pretty hard to mess up. Just light, drag, and GO. :thumb_up:

 

[AluminumFoilRobots]

^^^^^^^^

Dude my lungs really hurt after a good changa smoking session... they sort of ache and feel weak and occasionally I will get very out of breath... I think some process of pyrolation there is the culprit, however is could be residue from IPA... but actually it happens with ethanol and acetone- made changa as well.

I honestly think as far as lung health goes, smoked changa is worse. I could be wrong.

 

[DeMenTed]

lungs are good mkay