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Snuffing Virola Theiodora Resin - Reports

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idtravlr

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I would love to hear from SWIY's about experiences with snuffing V. Theiodora resin. SWIM has decided that this traditional ROA is what he'd like to do, and he would appreciate input from those who are familiar with this ROA.

Peace & Thanks!
-idt
 
Ok, so I found this summary from 69ron:
69ron said:
Note that when taken as snuff, it should be ground to a powdery consistency, and it should be mixed with lime (calcium hydroxide). A ratio of 4:1 of resin to lime is good. If lime isn’t used or the resin isn’t powderized, then it’s not very effective as snuff. But when taken sublingually, its only slightly more active that way, so it can be used as is with very good results.

Let’s recap:

* Pure Virola theiodora resin is active without any preparation.

* Pure Virola theiodora resin contains about 2.5% 5-MeO-DMT in water soluble salt form.

* The threshold dose for Pure Virola theiodora resin sublingually (or as snuff) is about 80 mg.

* 120 mg of pure Virola theiodora resin taken sublingually (or as snuff) is enough for minor LSD like psychoactive effects including slight visual distortions, euphoria, altered emotional awareness, increased awareness of surroundings. This is equivalent to about 3 mg of 5-MeO-DMT fumarate.

* Contains about 16 times as much 5-MeO-DMT as Diplopterys cabrerana.
From the following thread: http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=68192

Is this still accurate information, or have there been more developments since? 69ron?

Additionally - I'm curious why the resin needs to be freebased before snuffing, but not before sublingual. I bet that's gotta burn like hell...

Peace & Thanks,
-idt
 
That information about concentration was accurate for the batches used at that time, but it's not reliable when applied to all Virola theiodora resin. The resin varies a lot in potency, from being totally inactive, to being stronger then what's stated above.

SWIM has very little experience snuffing Virola resin. He's not the best source for first hand information in that department. I've heard it's more potent when calcium hydroxide is mixed in it when used as snuff. However, there's Virola theiodora and Virola calophylla. Both are very different. Virola calophylla contains mostly DMT and is pretty ineffective unless used with calcium hydroxide or a similar base. While Virola theiodora contains mostly 5-MeO-DMT, which doesn't need to be freebased to be effective sublingually. So this idea that calcium hydroxide should be used when snuffing Virola may really only apply to Virola calophylla resin, and has been mistakenly applied to Virola theiodora resin.

Again, SWIM has little experience snuffing anything at all. Hopefully someone else with more experience using this as a snuff will give better answers.
 
Thank 69ron - I'm going to do some experimentation. This V. Theiodora. SWIM will do some research and experimentation, starting with just plain resin, and tweak it depending on the results. He will try sublingual first, since there is more information on that. If he notices efficacy from that, the he'll know he has active resin and can try it as a snuff.

I'll report the results on this thread as they develop.

Peace,
-idt
 
watch out for crappy vendors selling inactive materials.. all the virola i purchased was crap. need to harvest a tree myself for some good active stuff..
 
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