So I want to dose orally to achieve something akin to a mushroom trip

[EscapeDog]

Well the title says it all. I have some syrian rue seeds, and i have FB and goo. I dont want to brew a tea with my acacia bark because i'm not in the mood for puking, and I was just thinking i could go for a light trip. I don't have any mushies, and i don't feel like breaking out the HBWR seeds, so i figured i could just take some rue and put it in capsules, and take a mixture of freebase and/or goo and dose orally. I know that 1mg per pound of body weight is said to be a heavy dose, but i'm just looking to kind of float around a bit, not really trying to break through. I know how much to smoke to achieve this, but i'm getting over a cold and am already super congested, and i don't want to be wasting the spice. Any experience here would be nice. I've used the search engine and it has been an hour now and i think i'll just ask because i've gotten mixed ideas. Also, if someone could lead me to a thread dealing with emulsions i would appreciate it. thank you

 

[indydude19]

If your getting over a cold, then maybe a dose large enough to do some purging would do your body some good?

I am not experienced much in oral dosing when it comes to the spice, but i found a thread on emulsions for you heres the link, sorry i dont know how to attach it to a word as a hyperlink on here.

Does this emulsion look right? - FAQ - All your basic questions and answers - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus

hope that helps you a little bit, have a safe light journey and let us know what you did and how it went!

peace and light

 

[Rosetta_Stoned]

Personally I'd stay away from any psychedelics while sick, I find a clear head is imperative to a good set and setting for me, but then again everyone's different.

Everyone being different also means that it's hard to give you an exact dosage, but if you have a decent supply of your materials, here's what I would do:
Start with what most would consider a threshold dose and work your way up until you found the sweet spot you want, that's how many dose when smoalking (which I believe you already know ) and the same idea applies to ingesting.

 

[EscapeDog]

Thank you, this sickness is more just constant phlegm, not so much feverish sick anymore, but i just don't have it in me to purge right now. Last time i was throwing up rainbows by the end.
and thank you for the link, i can only do so much searching before i break down and ask for help.
i don't have a Mg scale yet, so its all eyeballing for now, i think i'll start with a small ball of goop and a couple grams of rue, and see where it takes me.
it's been kind of hard for me to break through, i don't have proper equipment, and i don't want to put waaayyyy too much, you know?
i think i may be the type that needs more for that full on inter-dimensional experience, but i have gone really far, just no real entities yet. i've been putting it off but i guess soon enough i'll have to break down and just throw a lot on and hold on.

 

[indydude19]

You are most welcome. just as a heads up though, i just went to the search bar on the forum and typed in emulsions for the subject and that was one of the first results.

Rosetta's advice should be well heeded. i am an odd person when it comes to sickness and purging. I would stay away from all psychedelics if sick except a purging dose, but then again you could risk a terrible purge followed by an unpleasant journey due to your illness. I'm a strange person who can't have a bad trip, because i don't believe in them. But to the best of my knowledge it isn't a common thing. Drink some regular tea and get well!

 

[Mimosa_Man]

Don't you have to convert the FB into a salt for oral activity? I could be wrong but I thought that was the general consensus.

 

[Entheogenerator]

Don't you have to convert the FB into a salt for oral activity? I could be wrong but I thought that was the general consensus.

Freebase will convert to HCl in the stomach, but it is definitely recommended that one convert to a salt form before oral ingestion to ensure that it all absorbs properly. Oral ingestion of freebase is very hit-and-miss, IME.

For emulsions: Warm water bath. If that doesn't work, gentle agitation. If that doesn't work, add salt. If that doesn't work, add more lye. If none of those work, give it time. If it still doesn't clear up, repeat.

Eyeballing is not a very accurate way to measure dose, and I really discourage it. The density of DMT crystals can vary tremendously (even from the same batch), so one 10mg pile does not always look like the same amount as the next. A little goes a long way, for both oral ingestion and vaporizing. Trust me, you won't regret buying a good scale and an adequate vaporizer.

If you can borrow a scale for an hour or something, or you know exactly how much DMT you have, changa or enhanced leaf would be a good way to go. It is probably the most efficient way to vaporize DMT without a good vaporizer.