Spice teks only extract DMT?

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I see one Acacia variety contains many amines and alks..including methamphetamines!

I was curious what exact compounds are coming out with naptha pulls on most modern teks?

Is the only way to tell what's actually in your crystals through testing, or can we wash and process in a certain way to ensure only dimethyl molecules are falling out and growing.




Table 1. Major Chemical Compounds in South Texas Acacias
Amines and Alkaloids:

phenethylamine N-methylphenethylamineN,N-dimethylphenethylamine amphetamineN,N-dimethyl-"-methylphenethylamine methamphetaminep-hydroxyamphetamine p-methoxyamphetaminetyramine N-methyltyramine3-5-dimethoxytyramine candicine3,4-dimethoxy-5-hydroxy-$-phenethylamine dopaminehordenine N-methyldopamineN,N-dimethyldopamine 3-methoxytyraminetryptamine N-methyltryptamineN,N-dimethyltryptamine mescalineN-methylmescaline trichocereinenicotine nornicotineanhalamine anahalidinepeyophorine mimosine (methyl ester)nortryptyline musk ambrette3-"-cumyl-1,3,4-oxadiazolidine-2,5-dione pipecolamidep-hydroxypipecolamide 1,4-benzezediamine4-methyl-2-pyridinamine

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I see one Acacia variety contains many amines and alks..including methamphetamines!

Unfortunately, the results of the Clement et al. papers where that was initially reported have never been replicated anywhere else, nor did Dr. Clement ever respond to questions about this matter. See, for example, Trout's Notes for a further discussion of this episode, which clearly continues to muddy the waters to this day. The only comparable citations for acacia alkaloids mention N-methyl and β-methyl phenethylamines, never the α-methyl (amphetamine) variety.

Previous discussions of this matter here:

Acacia Berlandieri and natural amphetamine

i only wanted to make it clear, i deleted my original write up because i feel that I lied. The tree didn't help me at all, in fact i think it made things more bad then they already were, and i definately would recommend not using these two trees at all. it is no wonder to me why acacia...

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It would seem Acacia Rigidulas/ Berlandieri controversial Alkaloid makeup reaffirmed.

That IS one of the two papers Trout etc have criticised had probable contaminants. Clemments won't respond to any correspondence to try and explain the results, even from respected chemists. This is what needs to be re-checked.

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Resolving controversy around plethora of alkaloids in Acacia Rigidula & Berlandieri

Dear Nexians after repeatedly seeing the results of the paper by 3 University researchers, one of who was reachable I had a conversation with them. The intent of the the original toxicology paper was to determine the cause of the locomotor ataxia and staggering of goats eating the commonly...

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Also, check out the refutation to this claim, discussed here:

Trying to improve Acacia information

Ill put a few pointers as to some questions/queries/findings I have about the extraction. The TEK I used was Cyb's Salt Tek however I only used 50g of bark with an end result of 500mg of white spice - Some was most definitely left in oils (see below) and an inital pull I did at the very start in...

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..here's an interesting recent announcement regarding Acacia rigidula (now Vachellia rigidula), which we've looked at a few times, and has some conflicting findings regarding alkaloidal constituents [see p.5, 9, 44, 75 & 85]

Hi-Tech Pharmaceuticals Refutes Harvard Researcher's Claims in Full and Robust Response on Acacia Rigidula

(see also Acacia berlandieri & Acacia rigidula – Trout's Notes )

and so the controversy over this desert and brushland US acacia (vachellia) and it's contents continues..

..from the report:
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..below A. rigidula (Blackbrush) in flower and ally, the Lark Bunting, in the Rio Grande...

(please look after our wild allies)

We find a great degree of variability in biochemistry between Acacia species, so the remainder of the answer tends towards "it depends", although naphtha extraction of DMT-rich species followed by freeze precipitation tends to be selective for DMT and NMT. If you were to believe the report of mescaline occurring in A. berlandieri, for example - which I personally don't - this molecule would not be extracted by aliphatic naphtha anyhow. Add to that that alkaloids containing a phenolic proton, such as hordenine and - supposedly - p-hydroxymethamphetamine (which just happens to be a close structural analogue of hordenine) would remain in the aqueous phase if it were basic enough, well, this starts to become an unintended lesson in aspects of separation science so I'll leave it at that.

Here's a relevant thread for further reading, perhaps you can explore some more ideas there:

Trying to improve Acacia information

..INDEX OF THIS THREAD [yellow links to relevant post] note: the main objectives of this thread, when it started in June 2011, were: 1) to improve the veracity of phytochemical info on Acacias worldwide 2) to encourage SUSTAINABLE use of Acacias, by growing 3) to find enough active species...

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