Subject line got your attention? Good.
There's been an awful lot of threads lately with people speculating on or arguing about the fundamental nature of hyperspace.... and I just wanted to take the opportunity to point out that it's a boring waste-of-time argument and misses the real value of DMT and other entheogens.
Everyone who tries to address these questions experientially (by taking DMT to learn about the nature of the experience) receives different answers. Everyone simply "learns" that which resonates with them. Some people "learn" that it's god, some people "learn" that it's some metaphysical quantum mechanical expressive insight, some people "learn" that hyperspace is a unique external place with its own independent or interdependent reality, some people "learn" that it's a deeper dimensional reflection of consensus reality, some people "learn" it's aliens who engineered our DNA communicating with us. All of these are answers people have found in hyperspace.
When talking to people who have been there, who have delved deep into the realm of DMT, it rapidly becomes apparent that there is really no universal external Truth that one can take away from the experience... unless you're willing to reject the all the experience of everyone who happens to disagree with you (which sounds like nothing more than the petty religious dogmatic attitude of "I have the One True Answer to the fundamental questions of the human experience").
I'd like to see people get over this obsession with trying to explore external non-personal truths (like the nature of hyperspace). It doesn't seem to get people anywhere but into disputes about whose experience is more valid. What good does that do?
But I'm not just posting this to offend people who have deeply-held convictions about the nature of DMT and hyperspace or to be a buzzkill. My message here is meant to be positive and productive: There is great value to be found in DMT and other entheogens.
What becomes immediately obvious when we look at debates about the nature of hyperspace (or any other experiential inquiries into external questions) is that the nature of the answers that are received is highly personal/individual. The clear implication is that when one uses DMT to address personal/individual situations/issues/etc., those highly personal/individual answers actually become completely applicable and tremendously valuable. To me, that seems a lot better than arbitrary metaphysical answers that do little to improve oneself and primarily engender argument.
And this all jibes with the indigenous use of most entheogens. The majority of entheogens were used as medicines. They were recognized as being of such great value in addressing personal/individual situations/issues/etc. that a magical sort of power was ascribed to the plants. The only times they were used in religious/spiritual contexts was when a strongly meta-programmed religious/spiritual worldview was held by the entire society with relation to the plants. In real life, the vast majority of us in westernized cultures do not share such deeply-ingrained metaprogramming with our neighbors or even with many of our close friends, so to try to adopt usages of the plants relying on mutual metaprogramming seems entirely counterintuitive.
The spice can have little value addressing external questions (such as the nature of reality, the nature of hyperspace, or the existence of a soul or spirit world) unless it is within the context of a limited community with mutual metaprogramming.
But every single person who experiences the spice can find a True depth of value if they use it for Working on themselves, addressing issues within themself that need to be addressed, confronting problems that need to be confronted, affirming feelings that need to be affirmed, etc. etc. etc. The real Universal value of spice is in addressing that which is internal.
When the answers are always personal, doesn't it only make sense for the questions to be as well?
There's been an awful lot of threads lately with people speculating on or arguing about the fundamental nature of hyperspace.... and I just wanted to take the opportunity to point out that it's a boring waste-of-time argument and misses the real value of DMT and other entheogens.
Everyone who tries to address these questions experientially (by taking DMT to learn about the nature of the experience) receives different answers. Everyone simply "learns" that which resonates with them. Some people "learn" that it's god, some people "learn" that it's some metaphysical quantum mechanical expressive insight, some people "learn" that hyperspace is a unique external place with its own independent or interdependent reality, some people "learn" that it's a deeper dimensional reflection of consensus reality, some people "learn" it's aliens who engineered our DNA communicating with us. All of these are answers people have found in hyperspace.
When talking to people who have been there, who have delved deep into the realm of DMT, it rapidly becomes apparent that there is really no universal external Truth that one can take away from the experience... unless you're willing to reject the all the experience of everyone who happens to disagree with you (which sounds like nothing more than the petty religious dogmatic attitude of "I have the One True Answer to the fundamental questions of the human experience").
I'd like to see people get over this obsession with trying to explore external non-personal truths (like the nature of hyperspace). It doesn't seem to get people anywhere but into disputes about whose experience is more valid. What good does that do?
But I'm not just posting this to offend people who have deeply-held convictions about the nature of DMT and hyperspace or to be a buzzkill. My message here is meant to be positive and productive: There is great value to be found in DMT and other entheogens.
What becomes immediately obvious when we look at debates about the nature of hyperspace (or any other experiential inquiries into external questions) is that the nature of the answers that are received is highly personal/individual. The clear implication is that when one uses DMT to address personal/individual situations/issues/etc., those highly personal/individual answers actually become completely applicable and tremendously valuable. To me, that seems a lot better than arbitrary metaphysical answers that do little to improve oneself and primarily engender argument.
And this all jibes with the indigenous use of most entheogens. The majority of entheogens were used as medicines. They were recognized as being of such great value in addressing personal/individual situations/issues/etc. that a magical sort of power was ascribed to the plants. The only times they were used in religious/spiritual contexts was when a strongly meta-programmed religious/spiritual worldview was held by the entire society with relation to the plants. In real life, the vast majority of us in westernized cultures do not share such deeply-ingrained metaprogramming with our neighbors or even with many of our close friends, so to try to adopt usages of the plants relying on mutual metaprogramming seems entirely counterintuitive.
The spice can have little value addressing external questions (such as the nature of reality, the nature of hyperspace, or the existence of a soul or spirit world) unless it is within the context of a limited community with mutual metaprogramming.
But every single person who experiences the spice can find a True depth of value if they use it for Working on themselves, addressing issues within themself that need to be addressed, confronting problems that need to be confronted, affirming feelings that need to be affirmed, etc. etc. etc. The real Universal value of spice is in addressing that which is internal.
When the answers are always personal, doesn't it only make sense for the questions to be as well?
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