Strange DMT "breakthroughs"? Not sure.

[Import]

Hello all!

After having had a breakthrough without a doubt a couple of months ago, ever since that moment I have been unable to attain that level. I always meditate, gather my reasons for smoking this magical substance, look at life as a blessing and say my thanks to the universe, slowing down breathing and heart rate in order to get the most out of the rips.

Now, yesterday for example the same happened tome again. Smoked rue seeds, waited half an hour and then loaded up a cone of 1:1 changa (70% b. caapi leaf / 30% mullein). Now this is where it gets strange. For the first 30 seconds after the 2 massive rips I thought "why didn't I break through?", so I stood up to look in the mirror and BAM!, everything morphed and I jumped onto my bed and the next thing I know I'm 20 minutes further laughing like a maniac, crying of joy, screaming while I'm all alone at the amazement of everything that had happened and was still happening as I woke up. But I don't remember ANYTHING! Only some vague details which are ALWAYS reoccurring! There is always a female I talk to, this last time a girl I spent my whole last week with. And there is always a black man running away and returning. I think I was talking to these people for the whole 20 minutes while I was away but have no clue what the discussion was about.

I am reluctant to call this a breakthrough, because I know what it is. The first time I had one I felt I was the universe when I regained my senses and during the breakthrough I saw the most beautiful geometric shapes going at the speed of light and snakes and balloons and ornate masks of all kinds.

I just wanted to share my experiences and wondered if anyone knows what the dealio is?

Respectfully,
Import

 

[Nathanial.Dread]

The fact of the matter is that every person responds to drugs in a different way. Most of us respond similarly, but occasionally you run into the odd person who is a the far end of the spectrum and has a very strange reaction. (Eg: I knew a guy who would eat magic mushrooms by the handful and never see a thing. He just had breakdowns).

You could be one of those people.

Alternatively, maybe you're method of delivery is sketchy?
If you made your own changa, find a different recipe and try that out. If you got it from someone else, give it your own shot.
You could also just try vaporizing some freebase and see where that takes you.

I think the answer here to experiment with different things and see what happens.
I'd be very interested to know how this turns out.

 

[Mz.Gypzy]

Having Rue or Cappi involved, means it can slow down the onset.
I would recommend staying where your at, laying down or seated with your eyes
Closed and relaxed. Paying attention to the onset.
If you don't feel anything within a minute, dont jump up and go to
The mirror or where ever else.

Stay where you are at, relax and focus on staying aware and paying attention.
That way if you black out again, at least you know that you tried your best
To stay present and aware during the experience. Sometimes it takes some serious
Focus and attention to stay aware during a journey.

Blackouts are also an effect of to much of a high dose, so start lower and see if that
Helps any.

Good luck to you. Awesome things happen in hyperspace, were want to be
Present to experanice them.

 

[Import]

The fact of the matter is that every person responds to drugs in a different way.

You could be one of those people.

Alternatively, maybe you're method of delivery is sketchy?
If you made your own changa, find a different recipe and try that out. If you got it from someone else, give it your own shot.
You could also just try vaporizing some freebase and see where that takes you.

I think the answer here to experiment with different things and see what happens.
I'd be very interested to know how this turns out.

Hi Nathanial.Dread and thanks for replying!

I'm pretty sure I'm not one of those people, because I've gone far places with all psychedelics I've tried and as I stated with DMT also several months ago.

My method of delivery is the same as the one when I first broke through - a bong, almost exactly the same as the one I used to break through for the first time.
The changa was self-made, even though I do have another enhanced leaf blend which is 50% calea/50% passiflora incarnata, 1:1 plant : dmt, which I have yet to try as a regular bic lighter won't cherry it. I have used a sandwich method in my bong with a layer of b. caapi and freebase and I had almost exactly the same experience as I wrote about in OP. Person of dark skin running away and returning, from the centre of my vision to the right and then remembering barely anything.
I think the next time I will be indulding in DMT will be with yellow b. caapi vine for my first aya experience. Will not be using any admixtures, just 60gm of vine for starters.

I also have a 10x b. caapi leaf extract in the freezer, but that will still take 10 days and then another 4 to make changa out of. Looking forward to these experiences and will keep you informed!

Respectfully,
Import

 

[Import]

Having Rue or Cappi involved, means it can slow down the onset.
I would recommend staying where your at, laying down or seated with your eyes
Closed and relaxed. Paying attention to the onset.
If you don't feel anything within a minute, dont jump up and go to
The mirror or where ever else.

Stay where you are at, relax and focus on staying aware and paying attention.
That way if you black out again, at least you know that you tried your best
To stay present and aware during the experience. Sometimes it takes some serious
Focus and attention to stay aware during a journey.

Blackouts are also an effect of to much of a high dose, so start lower and see if that
Helps any.

Good luck to you. Awesome things happen in hyperspace, were want to be
Present to experanice them.

Thanks Mz.Gypzy for the reply as well!
Good tips I will definitely keep in mind with my next attempted journey! No more standing up, instead closed eyes and pay attention.
I have been wondering if it is a too high of a dose myself. I pack a full 1:1 changa bowl into my bong. I never weigh it out, as I am not currently in the possession of 0,001 scales. All I can say is that when trying that changa for the first time I took 4 rips and it didn't send me flying, this time with rue seeds prior to smoking 2 hits and I blacked out, with the same dosage of changa.

Respectfully,
Import

 

[Import]

update on my situation:

As some people might have heard from me I've been having problems being in hyperspace. I would always black out, or take a dose which would barely affect me. There was no middle point. Just now I had such a revelating journey. I was in a dimension just as ours with 2 close friends, conversing in what seemed to be a kitchen and a voice from behind me was telling me to "come have a look here". I would say "wait up lemme finish this conversation", this would go on multiple times, until it seemed the voice got tired of asking. Then all of a sudden there was a door which opened in front of me and what was behind it was so damn beautiful and unexpected, as I finally had memory during my journey, that I snapped out of it. An incredibly bright, vivid orange "space", with tendrisl reaching out to me through it. HUGE tremors when I came back to my body. But I'm so happy! I feel my relationship with spice is improving once again!!!

Method of administration: Changa! Love it, respect it!

 

[motiv311]

Hello all!

After having had a breakthrough without a doubt a couple of months ago, ever since that moment I have been unable to attain that level. I always meditate, gather my reasons for smoking this magical substance, look at life as a blessing and say my thanks to the universe, slowing down breathing and heart rate in order to get the most out of the rips.

Now, yesterday for example the same happened tome again. Smoked rue seeds, waited half an hour and then loaded up a cone of 1:1 changa (70% b. caapi leaf / 30% mullein). Now this is where it gets strange. For the first 30 seconds after the 2 massive rips I thought "why didn't I break through?", so I stood up to look in the mirror and BAM!, everything morphed and I jumped onto my bed and the next thing I know I'm 20 minutes further laughing like a maniac, crying of joy, screaming while I'm all alone at the amazement of everything that had happened and was still happening as I woke up. But I don't remember ANYTHING! Only some vague details which are ALWAYS reoccurring! There is always a female I talk to, this last time a girl I spent my whole last week with. And there is always a black man running away and returning. I think I was talking to these people for the whole 20 minutes while I was away but have no clue what the discussion was about.

I am reluctant to call this a breakthrough, because I know what it is. The first time I had one I felt I was the universe when I regained my senses and during the breakthrough I saw the most beautiful geometric shapes going at the speed of light and snakes and balloons and ornate masks of all kinds.

I just wanted to share my experiences and wondered if anyone knows what the dealio is?

Respectfully,
Import

many times I break in to maniacal laughter, cause I see that life is just a circus ride we do because we like it. we can change our "ride" with our thoughts and perceptions. Its only supposed to be FUN ... and it can be

 

[Jin]

Person of dark skin running away and returning, from the centre of my vision to the right and then remembering barely anything.

interesting :thumb_up: ,
perhaps its you