Struggling to get blast off. So bought a yocan. Still struggling and looking for advice

[L0rdk4in]

I have tried a few different things and been reading about different method. Dab rig kind of worked but was a loaner. Failed at making 10x caapi leaves changa and just have not revisited it since I have learned more. I got a yocan with donuts and me and a friend tried real hard to get it to workout. We had a fun evening and some sub breakthroughs but nothing amazing. So I got some harmalas and figured a sublingual dose and some time on the yocan would do the trip.

Correct me if I am wrong. But what I am thinking is to dose up on harmalas and wait 20 minutes. Then prime the yocan by melting the deems down and then pulsing the yocan for 8 seconds per hit.

Additional do you guys have any advice for using a yocan better. The best effect I gotten from it so far was to keep puffing away on it with 5 to 6 second pulses per hit and between hit. It took a lot hits to really get anything out of it. I remember counting 5 hits before really feeling much. But it felt amazing. I felt if I was able to just keep going I would have broken through. Sadly the yocan went dry on me. And I had loaded 80mg into it.

Feeling a little frustrated and trying to not buy anything else.

 

[Kable]

This is how I use my Yocan Evolve Plus XL.

OK, here's what works for me.

-I open the air flow wide open.
-I pulse it first to make sure the battery is strong and the wires turning red hot in ~1-2 seconds. I think that preheats the crystals so it heats up faster when you want it to.
-I weigh and load my standard breakthrough dose from my GVG. I poor it right in the center making sure it's not stuck to the sides, so I may push it with that little spoon that comes with it.
-Then I melt the spice, watching it closely, by barely tapping the button until the powder is gone, but not enough to make any smoke, and I make sure there isn't any spice left sitting atop that center square.
-I exhale all my air, before I start.
-I hold it vertical so any DMT doesn't run to one side, but I don't think about that too much.
-I hit the button and hold it down and within a second or so I'm inhaling off of it as hard as I can.
-Perhaps 5-7 seconds later I get a sense of heat going down my throat all at once but it's not that bad, but it feels like it's all vaporizing at once. I feel like that's the moment you swallow the alien, but I keep inhaling until I'm sure it's more than 10 seconds.
-Then I usually inhale a little fresh air on top of that so my lungs aren't still half empty and hold my mouth shut with my hand just to make sure I don't cough, and hold my breath for 15 seconds.
-Lay back and enjoy the ride!

It's harder to explain than to do.

The one thing I like about the GVG more is the unrestricted air flow, so the Yocan feels a little claustrophobic at first and the vapor maybe more dense and all at once but sucking a little air on top helps a lot.

I have an Evolve Plus (not the XL) also and it works about the same, just no air flow adjustment and it it heats up for 15 seconds instead of 10. My guess as to where you are having the trouble is with your ceramic donut. I use the quarts coils, with my understanding being that the ceramic donut maybe does not heat up fast enough to vape all your DMT in one hit, or cool down fast enough to stop burning it once you let the button go.

 

[L0rdk4in]

Thanks! I think mine came with a quarts coil. I will try and find where I placed it and see how it goes.