Sub-breakthrough contact

[obliguhl]

What's your experience regarding sub-breakthrough contact with beeings?
My friend was in this small room, looking at the pattern in front of him and had this distinct feeling of it beeing alive. There was a voice talking to him:

"Why do you think that this is not "us" ? That this is not the 'real deal' ?"

They were very caring and gave my friend the feeling of beeing very protected and in the hands of wise and very old teachers.

 

[kungpow]

I get contact with beings every time I do dmt. Breakthrough or not. If I contact entities in the sub-breakthrough experience they are always humanoid, and it always seems like they are playing some kind of game with me. They always seem to be doing weird things with their hands.

This threw me off at first because I thought that you only had entity contact in the break through experience. One thing is that I never get any kind of communication on a sub-breakthrough experience. It just seems like they want me to go further.

I really want to smoke some spice but I haven't because I've been sick. I tried the other day and it was just too harsh for my phlegm filled lungs. It made me cough terribly so I didn't even try for a breakthrough. Two hits and that as it.

 

[pmm]

I tried some "daytripping" the other day with a sleeping mask and some ambient electronic music to muffle noises in order to see if that works - with a very moderate dose (I think 25 mg). I observed some flying beings that struck me as "elves" and was thinking that the music was really quite nice (somaFM internet radio) - all of a sudden I heard a voice: "Oh, we love music" which really startled me and then I spent the next minutes watching them interact with the music rather dumbfounded. What was also amazing was that I got so caught up in their play, that I remained free of any interfering thought for the duration of the peak. That was a wonderful experience.

Another time with 50 mg but no breakthrough I encountered something very very strange, dark and to be honest, really frightening. I have never had any negative experience on any psychedelic drug whatsoever, but for a few seconds, this entity scared the shit out of me. What freaked me out was the vicious energy I felt from it and my inability to communicate with it to resolve the situation. It took me a few minutes and all sorts of disassociation techniques to recover from that.

How much of that was real? I don't know, could have been imagined in both instances, but it certainly felt very very real in both instances. I am still pondering whether the negative encounter was a manifestation of residual fear that I was confident of not having, or really something else.

 

[smokeydaze]

I get contact with beings every time I do dmt. Breakthrough or not. If I contact entities in the sub-breakthrough experience they are always humanoid, and it always seems like they are playing some kind of game with me. They always seem to be doing weird things with their hands.

I get that on good sub-breakthroughs also, the room is filled with these upside down left side right munchkins of mischief, always so continuing with their effort.

 

[wake and bacon]

SWIM has had entities appear on sub-breakthrough doses, quite often actually. They are usually hard to decipher, but their energy is felt and they sometimes speak (without speaking), more like SWIM can understand them.

At one part during his last journey (35mg's), SWIM saw a humongous long pole reaching towards infinity... it went on forever. An entity of some sorts was there, but completely unknown to SWIM; he just knew and felt that someone or something was there. It told him "hey... you can reach the top, all you have to do is try". SWIM focused all of his energy towards reaching the top, and he made it! It was like being on a rocket... truly incredible. After this, effects subsided and he opened his eyes.

 

[Aegle]

I havent broken through as of yet as i am still working on my ego loss im right at the beginning of the tunnle of hyperspace. But every time i have journeyed I have had entity contact, this really wise and compassinate being seems to pour over me and guide me, the one and only time that the wise and commpassionate being did not come to me and pour over me was when i had spice that had much more jungle present and this flame like entity came to me with these small elf like creatures surrounding the flame (I use the word eleves for the lack of a better word to described the small creatures they werent evles but very simalair.) Jungle Journey


Much Peace

 

[OrderAndChaos]

I have noticed some consistencies with my entity contact during trips. On lower dose trips, the entity is clearly defined and it's usually something comical or mischievous... a jester or an elf, or something that looks like it came out of Cirque du Soleil. Usually they're trying to 'mess' with me somehow - leading me around, laughing, shooting sparks all around or something strange like that, although they never seem malevolent or bad. If I take higher doses, entity contact is less common, but if there is entities, it's usually more ethereal, more feminine, and more mysterious. Often times I will hear words from the entities at higher doses, whereas the only thing I hear from low dose entities are laughter. It's often times hard for me to gauge whether the higher dose entities are kind or are unwelcoming, sometimes it can vary between trips. One of my best entity contacts during a higher dose trip was with a woman who was wearing a distinctive Amazonian tribal headdress and body paint.