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Xstacy

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Maybe SWIM hasn't done enough yet, but at best, body high was obtained, ceiling was blue red green and spinning but that's it. Do eyes need to be closed? SWIM needs spiritual guidance. SWIM is not interested in getting high, pot can be obtained for less if that is all he seeks. However numbness seems to take over and inhaling more can not be done. Using glass pipe and about to try again. Is there such a thing as 'too much' spice? Suggestions please. SWIM has been waiting years to experience this.
 
from the sounds of it you are getting a very low dose. If I want to break through I fill up the slide (no scale but it fits about .6g of pot) on my bong and take 2 good rips (many times over a night). I find that if you can hold it in for 20 seconds, you can hold it in forever because of that numbing effect, which i find is actually my brain distancing itself from my body.

I would not recommend this to some one who has not blasted off before, it gets VERY intense, hell i barely ever do it. I merely explained it to show that one will not be doing too much if they do more. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the LD50 of DMT is like 500mg/kg or something astronomical like that.
I say get about the amount of (white) dmt that is the size as a dime, and take a hit every few minutes to get a good feel for it until you are confident in its effects. Sorry for my grammar, im 'not completely my normal self' atm.
 
okay so swim saw partial world dissolving total numbing, slight ringing, everything was humming/vibrating, could barely hold pipe and heat source, but no blast off.

how soon can swim try again?
 
if you can type you can try again. The only documented tolerance that I know of is after it being administered to rats twice an hour for two weeks.
 
Fatcat said:
if you can type you can try again. The only documented tolerance that I know of is after it being administered to rats twice an hour for two weeks.
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thank you for time sir, swim is greatly thankful. Vaporizer needs cleaning before new attempt, 20mg wasted cause of a dirty pipe. swim can not inhale it period. Cleaned and waiting for 2 things to dry, pipe and more spice. swim will double the current dose and try again. swim greatly wishes to speak to elves.
 
If my humble friend could make a suggestion he might suggest setting intentions in line with that which he seeks. For example, if his goal is spiritual insight then he might send those goals through space and time prior to his administration. As crazy as his friend thinks the spirit world to be, projecting these intentions seems to set the stage for learning and insight.
 
Wake and bacon concurs with a1pha.

Beyond that... load up at least .05... trust... smoked correctly you'd be hard pressed to not go... somewhere...

Don't forget to show respect to the spice, hyperspace, and really... everything in general... though the spice usually demands it at these doses. Happy travels, please report back!!

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SWIM definately feels 'high' and focus of reality is somewhere else, but not a hyperspace boom. Maybe SWIM expects too much. SWIM senses seem to work just fine also. SWIM inhales much and he says when he closes his eye he sees some really weird stuff, but nothing like being abducted by aliens or shot across the universe at warp speeds. Everything seems to be humming/vibrating, but nothing like others have come to discuss. SWIM does not wish to 'high.' Speak or see elves, god, then yes. Is SWIM trying too hard? Mood seems great, scene is great, comfortable. SWIM has not yet felt a displacement of body and spirit. Body is always firmly attached. Is SWIM's lack of belief in god getting in the way? SWIM is confused and feeling let down. DMT is great, but nothing explosive as of yet.
 
It's not your expectations, trust me, and not your belief system either - could be your spice, could be your smoking technique, could be any number of things - but once you get it there will be no possibility of anything but complete and utter overwhelming awe, regardless of your experience level with any other psychedelics.
 
You should try a recrystallization in warm naptha. If that doesn't work you might have DMT N-Oxide, theres a way to convert it to DMT but you need zinc pelets or something obscure like that. Trust me, when you blast off you will know it. It will be everything that was described here and more than can be possibly relayed using human language.
 
SWIM's spice was obtained through finely ground MHRB in a STB tek. SWIM then added Naptha and pulled off after 24hrs. Froze naptha produced white/yellow crystals. Poured out extra naptha, left to dry for 24hrs. No recrystalization was done. Scraped dry and smoked. Is this SWIM's problem?
 
Sounds pure enough for me. I don't think you are getting enough. If you are 100% sure you can handle it I would say smoke until you physically can't smoke anymore. But I do not recommend this if you aren't totally confident it can get more intense than you could possibly imagine.

I've also had lots of luck with water pipes. Even if a small amount of spice is wasted, you can blast off much easier. Actually I couldn't blast off until I tried it out of my friends bubblier. I don't recommend using anything but glass though, who knows whats soluble in liquid dmt.
 
thats actually one of the worst ways to do it, and many people try that first. My personal favorite way is to put it on top of some pot, with some more pot on top of it. It would work with any herb really, but I think the pot makes me relax more for the trip, it also burns well when it is disolved into honey oil hash
 
Fatcat said:
thats actually one of the worst ways to do it, and many people try that first. My personal favorite way is to put it on top of some pot, with some more pot on top of it. It would work with any herb really, but I think the pot makes me relax more for the trip, it also burns well when it is disolved into honey oil hash
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SWIM doesnt really smoke pot and doesnt have a delivery system for it. SWIM could probably obtain some, just never thought of it.
 
I have never really broken through on smoked spice either. I tried many times when I first did my extraction. It seemed that the spice was too harsh and I couldn't get good enough hits. So then I tried an oral dose of DMT with rue. My first experience was pretty crazy, but nothing out of this world. My second oral dose was not too long ago and you can read about that in the thread titled "pharmahuasca is so powerful." My last oral experience has really gotten me interested in smoking DMT again, and I will be doing an extraction soon.

I think that the next time I try to smoke some spice I want to use the bed of herb method. It seems any kind of crack pipe contraption is just so harsh. Although I never did a recrystalization so that may be part of the reason. After my next extraction I plan on recrystalizing a few times.
 
well if you have to go to the trouble of obtaining a new pipe, you might as well make what is supposed to be the best one.

Its called the Machine
if you search for it on the site I'm sure you'll be able to find out how to make one.
 
In SWIM's experience, the machine is one of the harsher delivery systems one can use, and not the easiest to break through with. Try the herb bed method - no need to use weed - just a layer of parsley, a layer of spice, a layer of parsley - and be careful not to get the flame too close.

A bong with a hash oil bulb is actually the most efficient system this SWIM has found. Use a jet lighter, hit it until you are no longer physically able, and I defy you to return unphased.
 
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