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syrian rue extraction questions

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swim is trying the lemon extract. swim read "grind 30g Syrian Rues seeds to fine powder in a coffee grinder", but swim purchased a pre-powdered bag of rue seeds. swim also read that one should use "The recipe for liquid extract is so simple - Combine 50 ml Lemon juice (pH 2.1) + 150 ml water + 3.5 grams pulverized seed ( or just 0.35 - 1.0 g 10X stuff)"

and swim ALSO read to put 1 tbsp of ground seeds in, so SWIM went with that. is swim correct? SWIM is worried about overdosing. The 1 tbsp weighed out to 7.8 grams.

[edit] SWIM completed the extraction, but the liquid he got was not yellowish. it's brownish. SWIM is afraid :[
 
I've eaten 14g of ground P.Harmala seeds without ill effects.In the literature there are reports of persons consuming teas of up to an oz with side-effects of only nausea and vomiting.
 
thats good to know. SWIM followed these instructions
After boiling and filtering the grounds, set them aside. Take the murky Brown pour-off, bring it to a slow boil and let boil for 20 to 30 minutes. The water will boil off, leaving a very sticky brown resin. it smells like a rich coffee or unsweetened chocolate, and tastes quite biter.
It is water-soluble, so it cleans up easy.

For oral ingestion, a ball of resin extract- roughly the size of an aspirin is more than adequate."remember, with The addition of Syrian Rue, your Mushroom trip will be twice as strong and ten times weirder." If taking mor than 3 grams dried mushrooms, expect extremely intense audiovisual hallucinations.
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SWIM ended up with a very shiny resin extract thats sort of like glass/shiny breakable rock. SWIM will be taking an asprin sized dose and smoking the spice 30 minutes afterwards.
 
SWIM mixed what he considered to be an "Asprin sized dose" of the shiny black resin with red sparkles into water. SWIM drank the liquid, it tasted like lemon ass.SWIM may have not put enough, because SWIM didn't feel the effects that were mentioned (trails, relaxation, etc), so SWIM didn't bother smoking the spice.

SWIM is gonna try to smoke the crude harm(al)ine in a hash pipe, then smoke the dmt afterwards.
 
IME P.Harmala, after the initial 'shudder' produces few noticable effects on its own(realise this may be different for others) even at high dosages only experienced relaxation and an'anti-deppressant effect.For purposes of MAO inhibition I don't think its necessary to 'feel' the Rue as such.I reckon your dosing prob. would have been fine:)
 
SWIM smoked the crude harmine and smoked the DMT shortly afterwards. SWIM was in hypserspace for 20 minutes. another 20 minutes to become normal.

greatness
 
The recipe I know is 3.5 grams of finely ground Syrian Rue Seed per dose. "30" grams seems like a type-o !

Soak this in 150ml (distilled) water plus the juice of one lemon (50 ml) for 8 - 12 hours, stirr as often as you like/can. It has a pH of 2.1 !.

The you HAVE TO filter out the seed-crud though - you'll puke if you injest the seed-coats and seed-solids! 200 ml of filtered extract will be clear yellow - chill it in the fridge and filter again to get it 'perfect'. This deep-yellow, clear liquid can be diluted 4-to-one with juice, and chugged back on an empty stomach. You won't puke !

The effects are mild - a slightly relaxing, edge-softening feeling but you have heavily 'turned-off' or reduced your body's MAO enzymes. Somewhere someone estimated 3.5 g rue seed is about 200 mg Harmaline-type alkaloids, which is a high dose. And this extract is wears off soon, no need to weird-out about eating afterwards or during - in 90-120 minutes it's staring to end, finished in 4 - 6. Eat fruit if you're hungry, or just avoid salty, smoked, fermented things for the next day..


Rue seed extract at 6.0 grams seed (same amount of water & lemon) might be interesting !But you can't tell how strong the MAOI effect is until you eat a tryptamine like dmt or psilocybin ! Remember this report !


Try smoking dmt 30 minutes after drinking Rue seed extract - that is the most easy, and amazing way to do it !
 
The Dream Walker said:
How'd the harmine smoke? I'm interested in trying this and I just want to gather as much info as I can prior.
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SWIM says the harmine smoked really smooth. reminded swim of hash, actually..swim kept waiting to get high lol..

SWIM says this:
here is what I did:
plucked 1 fat lemon off a lemon tree
hand squeezed out the juice. measured to 100ml. it was a juicy lemon..
sprinkled 1 tbsp of grinded rue in there and mixed it around.
threw that into 200ml of water.
boiled that on and off for an hour. only boiling when stirring. then putting the top back on the pot.
strained the liquid through a coffee filter
the liquid was a brownish color, not like the clear yellow that had been described
put the strained brownish liquid back in the pot on a low flame. soon it'd evap'd and there was only lots of pretty resin.

smoked the pretty resin. mmm. smoked dmt 10 minutes afterwards. took about 20 minutes to smoke 100mg of the syrian rue resin. smoked the dmt 10 mins after.
 
El Ka Bong said:
Excellent way to make smokable MAOIs ! ... but how many doses or mg of 'resin' from 30 g seeds !?
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30g was a typo on the author's part. SWIM used roughly 7 grams (big tbsp). SWIM couldn't tell you how many doses it is, to be honest. SWIM only did one pull on the syrian rue, and you can do multiple to increase yield. SWIM also didn't measure how much he smoked, or the yield.
 
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