Here's a Rather Simple Extraction Tek For Syrian Rue (from http://www.spiritelf.com: [color=cyan:8c126a9482]Author: a dmt troll Submitted on: Sunday, October 15, 2006 Extracted from: Syrian Rue Chemical obtained: Harmine (and other Harmala alkoloids) Extraction Time: less than an hour Rating: [unrated] Equipment: Syrian Rue seeds, coffee grinder (very helpful to crush the seeds), stove, stainless steel pan, lemon juice, coffee filter Simple Syrian Rue Extraction: Formatted a little bit. Originally from Lycaeum 1. Take two tablespoons ground Rue and bring to boil with 3 cups of water and 2 tablespoons of lemon juice. 2. Let boil for 5 minutes. Let cool and then filter the grounds through a coffee filter, paper towel, or cheesecloth. Keep the liquid pour off separate from the grounds. You can boil and filter the grounds with water and lemon juice two more: times to get a higher yield of harm(al)ine. You can also wrap ground seeds in a coffee filter. staple it. shut, and boil it like a teabag for a half hour. 3. After boiling and filtering the grounds, set them aside. 4. Take the murky brown pour-off. bring it to a slow boil and let boil for 20 to 30 minutes. The water will boil off, leaving a very sticky brown resin. It. smells like a rich coffee or unsweetened chocolate, and tastes quite bitter. It is water-soluble, so it- cleans up easily. This resin is a crude harm(al)ine extract. When cooled and dried, the resin can be scraped and molded like clay. The resin can also be rolled into a ball and smoked for mid hypnotic effect. For oral ingestion, a ball of resin extract- roughly the size of an aspirin tablet is more than adequate to potentiate organic tryptamines tie. DMT, psilocin, psilocybin, and their many analogues) for ayahuusca- like effects. "Remember, with the addition of Syrian Rue, your mushroom trip will be twice as strong and ten-times wierder. Be sure to adjust your normal dosage![/color:8c126a9482]
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Syrian Rue Extraction Tek
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quantumbrujo
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I am assuming that these alkaloids extracted namely Harmine and harmaline are in thier salt form using this method.Seen a tek for extracting the freebases of these alks somewhere.Gonna post it when I find it.By the way harmine and harmaline freebase can legally be ordered from some on-line suppliers.Thanks for posting this Blackclo. 
blacksheep
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Altho' plenty here are probably aware of this method, I'll put it here for those who arent, and those passing thru' this is just to get the concept out, you can use your head and figure the amounts etc. Ground P.harmala seeds 3 parts h2o 1 part vinegar brew it up til its done, strain seeds. (the alkaloids are reportedly in the seed hull) take solution and strain/filter as good as possable defatting has its advantage, but is optional for every 100 mL of solution add 5g pure NaCl, un-iodized, kosher salt grains are good mix well make sure salt disolves, the solution should be warm enough to dissolve all the salt by agitating set it aside to cool, once at room temp put it in the fridge over night is best, but not necessary, with your face pressed against the jar which it probably will be if your anything like my freind youll see harmala crystals floating around the solution, within a few hours all the crystals should have dropped to the bottom of the jar but it might be best to let it sit through the night when all the crystals the have all dropped, siphon off all the solution down to the pile of crystals at the bottom, then pour the part with the crystals through a coffee filter blammo, let it dry. If they're a rusty color, they could be further cleaned by adding them to warm NaCl solution again, and let to cool just as before If they come out yellowish gold your done the end product is kinda dusty but sparkley, some crystals can be made out well but theres probably a simple way to form nice crystals, more than likley just let the solution take longer to cool and you should have a prettier product. My freind took 70mg of these harmala alkaloids last night than 1 hour later another 70mg both times by dissolving in a shot of warm water which happens on contact, it was noted that the shot did not taste at all like salt but kinda medicinal. He also ate 36g Lindsor chocolate and thinks he may've actually felt the cocoa alkaloids but he was kind of high on cannabis, but said it felt like he just smoked another bowl, but he hadn't. He's pretty familiar with cannabis, (some say a little too familiar...), and said it was incongruent with his normality to all the sudden get a head change without smoking more, especially with his tolerance, and it had been 3 documented hours since taking the harmala alkaloids. Other than that nothing notworthy about the harmala high, except maybe a little feeling of puffiness. My freind had a solution split into 2, 1 of them he defatted and the end result was goldish but yellowy orange, but yellow really. The solution that was not defatted produced the rust powder which had discernable crystals in it. Out of 50g wet weight viable P.harmala just 1.5g harmala alkaloids, 50g of dry seeds will yeild more. P.harmala grows wild here,(not native), but they are dormant now. In the near future my freind is bound to go wild crafting and will post results of yeild of wild seeds.
blacksheep
Rising Star
It was also noted that harmala alkaloids are insoluble in non-polar solvent at least via this method. The defatted solution was salinified than did a couple naphtha pulls, came out clear and put in the freezer, the salinified sol. was put in the fridge, the crystals ended up staying in solution
blacksheep
Rising Star
I'm thinking that an acidic solution of the caapi vine has potential for a duel extraction. Salt could be added to the solution and the alkaloids collected as described above, once the maoi is collected, some lye could be added and the wee bit of tryptamines could be collected from the same solution via non-polar pull.
In case anybody's interested in history: the extraction at the top of this thread which BlackClo got from SpiritElf is basically the extraction technique which Jonathan Ott reports using in /Ayahuasca Analogues/, except that Ott extracts three times and only reduces volume producing 150ml of drinkable extract instead of a gummy resin. Shulgin also briefly mentions extracting with lemon juice in TiHKAL. Gracie&Zarkov reported a similar technique back in '85, but using simmering vodka in a crockpot, in which they also produced a gummy resin which they smoked. Cf. this typset pdf version I made of their historical report (which BlackClo is kindly hosting): http://dmt-nexus.me/doc/syrian_rue_info1.pdf /Ayahuasca Analogues/ is, btw, a very good read which I highly recommend if you can get your hands on a copy. If you can read German, it's still in print and cheaply available in the German translation from amazon.de -z
[quote:273e3524c5="quantumbrujo"]By the way harmine and harmaline freebase can legally be ordered from some on-line suppliers.[/quote:273e3524c5] Since it's legal, do you mind posting one of these suppliers? I haven't been able to find one.
I am doing a freeze precipitate on Syrian Rue at the moment. Has anyone tried it? What are your results? I think the salt is only in the solution to lower the freezing point of water to keep it from freezing. Is this correct? The second extraction method mentions harmaline crystals, but I doubt you'll be able to get anything like that from a crude extract like this. Anyway... we'll see 
UPDATE: I just checked the solution. The water was starting to freeze, but there were no crystals. There was probably not enough salt in the solution to keep it from freezing. I warmed the solution in the microwave and added (A LOT!) of salt. I'm going to put it back in the freezer when it's at room temperature. My guess is that I'll not be getting any crystals or real extracts.
UPDATE: I just checked the solution. The water was starting to freeze, but there were no crystals. There was probably not enough salt in the solution to keep it from freezing. I warmed the solution in the microwave and added (A LOT!) of salt. I'm going to put it back in the freezer when it's at room temperature. My guess is that I'll not be getting any crystals or real extracts.[quote:ce16930a21="blacksheep"]Put it in the fridge, than the freezer, before it freezes AT ALL, put it back in the fridge, etc[/quote:ce16930a21] Ok, cool. So you have tried this yourself? What where the results? Did you get real crystals, or does the salt enclose the alkaloids while crystallizing forming some sort of harmaline salt?
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