Taking suggestions for side-by-side extractions anyone…

[almostthere]

hello everyone, I am about attempt my very first extraction. I have been researching tax for about a month and a half now and the Variables that affect you are very interesting and I would like to explore these.

I have just received my shipment of MHRB in the mail. I purchased 500g of shredded bark.

I have also purchased 6 1.9 L mason jars, A milligram scale, Lie, Napa, distilled water and a separatory funnel.

basically I would like to do six separate extractions with six different sets of variables to see with what kind of-year-olds are best from which techniques.

if anyone can offer me a quality STB tek and a quality A/B Tech I would like to perform three extractions of both kinds.

I will be posting my progress with pictures the whole time with my results as well.

hope to hear from you guys soon so that I may begin shortly I am very excited about this project and I hope everything goes well.

 

[endlessness]

Hey!

Thanks for offering to expand our knowledge on these things! If I may make a suggestion though, better compare one or two variables first, specially if you arent very experienced with extractions.. things can get overwhelming and messy when there are so many containers you are playing with (I say this from experience lol), and the side by side isnt as accurate..

Say for example you have 6 jars that you are using different solvents or bases or whatever.. Lets say you mix the solvent in all jars, and then after 5 minutes you separate the solvent layer of the first jar, and that takes you a few minutes.. When you get to the second jar, the solvent hasnt been standing there for 5 minutes , but rather 7 or 8 or 10. By the time you get to the 6th jar, the solvent has been standing for waaay longer than the first one (unless you have multiple lab slaves working for you working simultaneously.... I always wanted some of those ) So if that last jar has a higher yield, how do you know it was the variable you wanted to compare, or rather simply the time difference when it was standing there? I guess you get the point...

Obviously I dont want to discourage you from experimenting, but just talking from a practical stand point.. You can always do another extraction in the future and compare another variable or two or three.

Regarding what to compare, maybe others can chime in what they think is a good idea.. I can post something tomorrow, but right now gotta care for my hungry belly

Be well, and good luck!

 

[anrchy]

I would def compare length of processes. Anything that shortens the process or decreases complexity is useful. Ill be writing up a thread about the q21 tek soon. I did a side by side comparing boiling vs not boiling during acidification.

 

[Earthwalker]

I'm with endlessness on this ,, I'd surgest you get to do 1 extraction and complete it as a success a few times over before doing any experimentation !!

I love you're inthusiazam and ordering every thing and having it all ready to go sounds easy but it isn't that way at all , sep funnell included , there over rated , you're better of getting a pipette or a glass syringe ! Also you're bark mightn't be quality root bark , and there lies the biggest problem finding a decent supply !!

Good luck :thumb_up:

 

[almostthere]

okay everybody, I am going to take your suggestions under advisement and tone it down a bit. And stand that I was a bit gung ho about the whole project and maybe I do need to get some experience under my belt before I go a bit wild with this whole thing. I am going to still attempt an extraction with the root bark. can someone give me a suggestion of a very successful tech that they have used in the past I've read many of them and I just want to do this right.

I have 500 g of MHRB can you suggest a good grammage to start off with for my first extraction.

 

[Earthwalker]

okay everybody, I am going to take your suggestions under advisement and tone it down a bit. And stand that I was a bit gung ho about the whole project and maybe I do need to get some experience under my belt before I go a bit wild with this whole thing. I am going to still attempt an extraction with the root bark. can someone give me a suggestion of a very successful tech that they have used in the past I've read many of them and I just want to do this right.

I have 500 g of MHRB can you suggest a good grammage to start off with for my first extraction.

Yes 50g is a great place to start and it's a good way to see a few things 1 / if you've got quality bark 2/ if that TEK suits you're preferred style and 3/ if the TEK suits you're chemical available at ease !!

So as I always do I recommend this Cybs' Hybrid ATB 'Salt' Tek - DMT-Nexus Wiki

Super easy , clean & relatively quick !! Good luck :thumb_up:

 

[ribbit01234]

okay everybody, I am going to take your suggestions under advisement and tone it down a bit. And stand that I was a bit gung ho about the whole project and maybe I do need to get some experience under my belt before I go a bit wild with this whole thing. I am going to still attempt an extraction with the root bark. can someone give me a suggestion of a very successful tech that they have used in the past I've read many of them and I just want to do this right.

I have 500 g of MHRB can you suggest a good grammage to start off with for my first extraction.

I recently did my first extraction and used q21's lime a/b tek. I did tek #2 on the page and yielded .94% weight. The thing that got me to do this versus other teks is that it's completely food-safe besides the naptha. It was pretty easy, too, and you can buy pretty much everything at the store besides maybe the pickling lime.

If you do ever decide to compare different teks, could you maybe do a side-by-side of a foodsafe and a tek using lye or something similar?

 

[anrchy]

okay everybody, I am going to take your suggestions under advisement and tone it down a bit. And stand that I was a bit gung ho about the whole project and maybe I do need to get some experience under my belt before I go a bit wild with this whole thing. I am going to still attempt an extraction with the root bark. can someone give me a suggestion of a very successful tech that they have used in the past I've read many of them and I just want to do this right.

I have 500 g of MHRB can you suggest a good grammage to start off with for my first extraction.

Basically you have two choices. Are you going to use lye for your base or lime? There are other options but since your new to this im keeping it simple. If you use lye i recommend cyb's max ion tek. If you use lime i recommend Q21q21.

If you use Q21q21 then read this Q21 side by side. (Acid boiling vs Not) - A/B - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus

 

[ChemicalEnthusiast]

I will be doing a side by side soon here as well except I will be using acacia instead of mimosa.

I will be doing a STB vs A/B side by side. I think the biggest variable as far as yield goes is the starting material so keeping that constant is very important. Both procedures will include a defat step as it is necessary for acacia to obtain nice white crystals.

 

[anrchy]

I will be doing a side by side soon here as well except I will be using acacia instead of mimosa.

I will be doing a STB vs A/B side by side. I think the biggest variable as far as yield goes is the starting material so keeping that constant is very important. Both procedures will include a defat step as it is necessary for acacia to obtain nice white crystals.

Im interested in the results of this. You are probably already aware but make sure you keep everything else as close to the same as possible. That was the only downfall i can see with my side by side. I had to use differing amounts of base due to consistency issues.