First time taking experience, advice needed

[Kegrler]

Hi all, so had my first try of DMT last night. Took sensible amount first. Got very light visuals when eyes closed but had to concentrate on seeing them. Nothing really. So went again a hour later, with more on and took the toke better. I’ve got a e-mesh vape so can do it in one toke and it’s not harsh at all just smells funny but smooth and easy to take. (Is the fart spray smell normal)? Second time was crazy when I controlled the toke rate like, everything was like that picture but all moving around me focused on a centre point, like the centre point contained something, always watching me and moving everything that existed around me. No where near blasting off but very very crazy, my breathing was erratic but I concentrated on not panicking and managed to control it, I was aware I was me and where I was, but kind of scared at the same time. Is this considered a mild trip? When I opened my eyes the room was kind of filled with cubes, blue/purple but eyes closed it was very yellow, only opened eyes for a second here and there the room I was in folded away and ended. I’d estimate the 2nd go was around 15mg. Almost makes me scared to try anything like 30-40mg because of how different it was on the second compared to the first just by adding a little more. Anyone got any advice? Appreciate any response.

 

[Transform]

Hi, welcome!

Some level of fear is absolutely normal. And yes, DMT can smell like that due to impurities of indole and skatole.

Post in thread 'Why DMT Scares Me'

Yesterday at 9:03 PM

A lot of anxiety today... treating it as a cue or a tag for self-care. What does Void need right now?

I woke up this morning with this anxiety. I also woke up to a thought that I've been having for a while that was reverberating in my head louder than usual. I feel like I have wasted so much time because I don't do what I want. Symbolically, I grabbed the changa bowl and ripped it once, just as a way to practice doing what I want. So much internalized policing and justifying for things I ought not have to.

I am getting better at identifying when I am being too hard on myself. It's very...

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Do you have much prior experience with other, less abrupt psychedelics?
Meditation is a helpful skillset to develop when exploring these realms.

 

[Kegrler]

Hi, welcome!

Some level of fear is absolutely normal. And yes, DMT can smell like that due to impurities of indole and skatole.

Post in thread 'Why DMT Scares Me'

Yesterday at 9:03 PM

A lot of anxiety today... treating it as a cue or a tag for self-care. What does Void need right now?

I woke up this morning with this anxiety. I also woke up to a thought that I've been having for a while that was reverberating in my head louder than usual. I feel like I have wasted so much time because I don't do what I want. Symbolically, I grabbed the changa bowl and ripped it once, just as a way to practice doing what I want. So much internalized policing and justifying for things I ought not have to.

I am getting better at identifying when I am being too hard on myself. It's very...

• Voidmatrix

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• 

Do you have much prior experience with other, less abrupt psychedelics?
Meditation is a helpful skillset to develop when exploring these realms.

Hi and thank you for the reply. I’ve had salvia a good few years ago but that’s about it as far as psychedelics go. I did try to do some controlled breathing, meditation music was on etc but the sheer level of uncontrolled movement was scary and nothing like that bothers me usually. I just can’t imagine what upping the dose could do, like rather than me getting spun and thrown around a yellow room of squares, does it completely change? Going from 10 to 15mg was sooooo much more intense (granted I inhaled it a lot better and controlled) that going from 15 to 20mg for example is daunting. I think taking it alone, no one close to me wants to try it so I don’t know how to compare or what do to next.

 

[Voidmatrix]

Is that considered mild? Yes and no. No in the sense that subjectively feels intense. Yes in the sense that there is so much more as you up the dose. However, there is usually a dose limit that provides diminishing returns prior to blackout doses. It's different for everyone.

Your 'breakthrough' dose may vary from the average, being a little lower or a little higher.

Your fear is normal. Very normal. That can be hard to get used to, but just know it's not you. It can be easy to turn feeling the fear and panic into self doubt. Keep going. You got this.

As for what to do next and who to talk to, peruse the forum, there's so much quality content and conversation on a plethora of topics, and no shame in resurrecting old threads.

The molecule is nuts, and in being so, it is implicitly daunting/terrifying/intimidating. Think of it as resilience training. It scares the hell out of me too. For years I've rarely gone past 15mg. However, for me, the spice will take me when it wants. There have been plenty of times 10mg was way stronger than it "usually" is. Then there's the unforgettable 6mg journey where I ended up in some hyperspace carnival.

Surrender, let go, just be, breathe (provided you're still in touch with your body, otherwise don't worry about it, the autonomic nature of breathing will take over).

One love

 

[somanaut]

you could consider upping your dose during the experience and trying to slowly ladder your way up, although that's much easier with a vape. psychedelic bungee jumping is scary. of course it is. and there's no urgency to force an experience. get to know the state space, build trust with yourself and the intelligence, and gradually work your way up

 

[Flufferus]

If you get good at vaping that 15mg you can have even stronger experiences. takes time to learn emesh or any vape. skunk spray smell likely due to abit of burning.

I never go over 10mg, averaging 8mg. I have a volcano vaporizer though and its very efficient. I enjoy low doses now after i had my breakthrough awhile ago, and prefer the visual lower doses.