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temperatures during extraction
- Thread starter sparrow95
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fathomlessness
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sparrow95 said:
Yep, it depends how warm it gets after you basify it. That is why in the teks they say "add the base slowly" because you really don't want to go above 50c. I ruined an xtraction once because I added it too quickly and it got real hot.
downwardsfromzero
Boundary condition
Also, that boiling temperature is under a fairly stiff vacuum. At normal atmospheric pressure it is considerably higher.
syberdelic
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There is only one time that I use heat.
I will use the standard A/B tek with HCl and NaOH. I will never use either straight. I will dissolve the NaOH in distilled water, and allow it to cool. Even if it didn't create heat, undiluted NaOH will rip DMT apart like it will any organic molecule.
After I have done a few naphtha pulls, I will put my jars with basic solution and naphtha in a water bath and invert a few times as it heats up. I'll try to keep the solution around 50C for about 30 minutes, inverting every five minutes or so. This allows me to maximize DMTs solubility for the final pull. I will turn off the heat and pull the naphtha while it's still near 50C.
I have recently quit using HCL and NaOH. I now use vinegar and sodium carbonate. I find that the vinegar is just as effective as long as you aren't in a hurry and is MUCH safer. The sodium carbonate requires a bit more to get the pH up but can be added directly to solution thus requiring less volume and of course, safer.
I will use the standard A/B tek with HCl and NaOH. I will never use either straight. I will dissolve the NaOH in distilled water, and allow it to cool. Even if it didn't create heat, undiluted NaOH will rip DMT apart like it will any organic molecule.
After I have done a few naphtha pulls, I will put my jars with basic solution and naphtha in a water bath and invert a few times as it heats up. I'll try to keep the solution around 50C for about 30 minutes, inverting every five minutes or so. This allows me to maximize DMTs solubility for the final pull. I will turn off the heat and pull the naphtha while it's still near 50C.
I have recently quit using HCL and NaOH. I now use vinegar and sodium carbonate. I find that the vinegar is just as effective as long as you aren't in a hurry and is MUCH safer. The sodium carbonate requires a bit more to get the pH up but can be added directly to solution thus requiring less volume and of course, safer.
If you search for "nomograph" on the nexus forum search engine, you'll find a few threads where the boiling point of dmt is estimated at approximately 380 degrees Celcius.
When basing bark in hot caustic solution, or even directly mixing lye pearls into the bark soup, the nonpolar pull tends to be a lot dirtier. Dissolve the lye prior to mixing it in with the bark and keep the temperature of the bark soup below 50 degrees celcius.
When basing bark in hot caustic solution, or even directly mixing lye pearls into the bark soup, the nonpolar pull tends to be a lot dirtier. Dissolve the lye prior to mixing it in with the bark and keep the temperature of the bark soup below 50 degrees celcius.