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Testing the waters... Mild glimpse.

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LoveTheUniverse

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My 2nd attempt, this time around with a product which appears to be a lot more pure. I have a standard digital scale which can go down to mg, but the readings of such a small weight were a bit unstable, so I layed out about 100mg and split it into 3 lines and decided to test the waters.

I've never had anything harsher on the lungs than weed (even then I really only use water bongs, can't stand pipes) so I'm not too familiar with vapourising and not used to the instant hit of smoke. Using a glass pipe with steel wool, I put the crystal in and took a few hits which were really inconsistent (might not inhale anything with 1 hit, relight and take another which produced harsh smoke noticeable while inhaling/exhaling).

I felt the rush as soon as I got a solid hit. Smoked some more straight away, kicked in a bit heavier. At the computer with DMT-Nexus open the text started to blur and float slightly. The 'Explorations of the Spirit Molecule' header started to float a bit and then increased in definition, became slightly holographic. It actually looked really nice but nothing too intense. It was over really quickly. I kept trying to smoke more and more (while being careful to judge the doses), things went similar again but I just wasn't breaking through... I got up and walked around, had some light mesh-like visuals. I guess if you imagined an opaque 3D blueprint in the air, bacteria-esque acid like visuals of the floor (once again, all mild). Hues changed, got the impression there was more magenta in the atmosphere. Skin colours altered slightly. My girlfriend's eyes looked huge, appeared a bit alien/weird more so than shrooms for example... Then without much of a break, I tried loading up bigger doses which were harsh (coughed up one hit, was actually starting to feel a bit sick from it too) I just wasn't breaking through and called it a night.

I was really nervous... Just thinking about it earlier in the day was enough to increase my heart rate. Probably doesn't help that my usual daily ritual of trying something new generally includes reading up on all the negative experiences I can find. Now I feel a lot safer, have an understanding how the whole come up/down could play out, experiencing the harsh smoke and getting an idea of a dose. Hopefully next week I'll have my new mg scale and try again. I plan to lay out 30mg, try my best to get it all down and see how it pans out. Then have breaks, upping the dose 10mg each time until I get a desired effect.

Any advice is appreciated, I realise I'm probably not taking it in strongly enough, I'm just trying not to be reckless or naive with psychedelics... Seems like a few of us need a bit of practice, I might try some enhanced leaf (left over n-oxide, wouldn't know how to judge the strength) next time. I'll keep this post up to date while I progress along.

Anyway, there's a long weekend here and we've got a riverside cabin near the forest. Shrooms & LSD are on the menu, looking forward to it.
 
Hi LoveTheUniverse,

Welcome to the Nexus!

I am no expert by any means, but I suspect that there is no need to rush it, a breakthrough will come.

Having said that, enhanced leaf/changa might be the way to go. You literally can take in 50+ mg (i.e. breakthrough) in one or two good hits. Yeah, it's still N,N, DMT, but the herbs help a bit and it is easier than taking multiple freebase hits.

Other than that, long and slow. Nice and easy. It's okay to cut with air (like with a hot-burning joint) if that enables you to take more in. Hold as long as you can. When my exhales are clear and I start to hear that Carrier Wave whine, I know a breakthrough is coming.

Bubbling it through water (changa in a bong or a bubbler freebase pipe) helps too.

Happy journeys and enjoy your long weekend.

Peace & Love,
Pandora
 
I sugest not focusing on the computer screen, alot of the magic happens behind closed eyes.

You should really enhance some leaf, this is got to be the easiest and simplest way to get there. Load your dose into the bowl of the bong and smoke it slowly, you should be able to get it all in in one or two pulls, depending on dose size. And it tastes no where nearly as bad as weed through a bong, actually tastes nice and often I taste nothiing at all.

As Pondora said, hold that drag in as long as possible, 15 seconds should do it.

And remember, no distractions, close those eyes as soon as possible and SMILE.

Happy travels.
 
I agree with gammagore...

first couple times I tried it I was sitting in front of my laptop & tried to keep my eyes open the whole time...this only resulted in the LSD like visuals you spoke of, colors, morphing patterns, etc...

THEN I decided to try a decent dose laying on the floor with a pillow and just some soft music playing. WOW! it totally took me places...I de-focused on my body and started exploring my mind.
 
try a freebase pipe, even those glass-rose things work.

I make a freebase-bong (coined) out of aluminum foil and the bulb from a gas lantern, that way no direct flame hits the substance. That and the smoke is not harsh at all. I mean, it still tastes like a burning shoe - but there are some things we'll never be able to escape.
 
Thanks for the feedback/advice guys. I'll put it to use next week probably with some enhanced leaf and give it some time to breakthrough. I should have a chance to be alone, setting up a dark room with no distractions... It's not so much the taste that gets me, at the moment it's the harshness of the smoke. It feels extremely unnatural, but thinking back to the first times smoking weed it probably seemed the same. I'm sure I'll get used to it.
 
Why? you don;t have 5 minutes today?
People who live for tommorrow have no use for today.... or for tommorrow when they get there.
 
Close your EYES!!!!

Breakthroughs are harder to achieve when your eyes are open, and can become chaotic and unpleasant if a solid dose is taken.

Also, changa is a great idea, as is the use of a water bong to cool down the smoke. Less is wasted by the water than by choking on smoke.

There is no rush. You have The Spice, now you just need a bit of patience and a willingness to get back on the proverbial DMT horse.

Best of luck!
 
Why? you don;t have 5 minutes today?
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I don't know about anyone else here, but I'm definitely not one for taking psychedelics just because I have some time to kill.

Yeah, I think a bong will be the best bet for me at the moment. I'm at least glad I've got the process down, I won't be rushing it... I had an extremely heavy shroom trip this weekend, I got everything I was looking for so I'm pretty content with having a small break. If I'm up for it this weekend I will be back on the DMT wagon.
 
gammagore said:
And remember, no distractions, close those eyes as soon as possible and SMILE.

Happy travels.
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haha love the last part about the smile, seems to come quite naturally when you close your eyes. I always get a big shit eating grin
 
You should look through this postLetting Go - Help and Advice for Healing - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus .
You will get there, no need to rush, but I advise you to work up the courage and decide your going to break through before wasting anymore of your precious spice. You can low dose and "test the water" all you want, but you will still have no clue until you decide to go all the way. Remember that everything your afraid of is completely false, everything will be fine. I hope this helps you. Happy travels!
 
Thanks for the link, it seems to be exactly what I need to read.... As far as testing things, I think I have enough insight to go all the way. I'm feeling good about it all at the moment.

Regarding being nervous - a few previous trips (acid/mesc./shrooms) got a bit intense to what I was expecting (without being reckless, I was extremely mature about dose, setting etc.) Things were starting to get scary very quickly but it seems I have a lot better control with experience after the last two trips.

Hopefully I'll update with some further progress in a week or so.
 
As another newcomer who has found themselves in the warm embrace of the spice I found the above posted thread to be extremely helpful. Fully "letting go" has been an issue for me as well but a lot of what I've read on this forum should help in my future travels.
I'm happy to be a new member to this community and look forward to experiencing all that this wonderful chemical has to offer.

Peace and love to all
 
AluminumFoilRobots said:
I mean, it still tastes like a burning shoe
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... hello???

Yeah, this is pretty open-and-shut really. Smoke more. Smoke deeper. Take some THH Beforehand.

When you get a breakthrough, man, nothing else will make sense. You read about people saying 'oh, its difficult to describe' well, thats because the experience is so far beyond impossible to describe that you will be re-proccessing it for atleast a couple of days afterwards. if not a week.

look forward to reading about your first breakthrough. Just know that that mildly hallucinogenic 'toe in the water' exerpeice you described is nothing compared to the full thing. You'll get there.
Good luck.
 
If its tasting that bad you are just burning it and wasting the spice. Make some infused leaf, use an ash bed, place in bong.
 
Breakthrough... Experiencing the after effects at the moment which is a bit confusing. I'll try to write up something tomorrow. Thanks for all the help and insight, got past the fear & let go. It paid off.
 
Mind's actually a bit clearer; I'll try to sum it up.

The preparation or ideals people bring up in terms of the setting for a trip were really getting to me. They made it seem like losing your virginity (which could be an analogy in itself), but I thought "Fuck it, I don't think there will be a 'perfect' situation. As long as I'm comfortable everything should be fine".

I was in my computer chair, the computer was on, lights were dimmed slightly, music was playing... I really didn't know how to setup this situation (especially since this was my first solo trip). I went through a few music options and decided to go for something not so stereotypically trippy, so I put on some stoner-rock...

Smoked enhanced parsley made from left over N-oxide... It took about 3 attempts to breakthrough, each time becoming more comfortable with letting go judging on the mild effects I was experiencing.

Kicks in instantly. Really, really intense, but quite easy going too in a contradictory sense. I can see my hands & bong heading into hyperspace which is not too overwhelming, it actually is a nice rush - the type where I'd just want to lean back in a chair, close my eyes and see what this trip will bring... The smoke rising out of the cone piece is instantly seen in a different perception (as I'd imagine reptile vision, seeing things from the side)... I get the waves of visions, very holographic regarding pictures and strange in terms of being able to see physical atmosphere/air.

I would assume that I'm about 30 seconds in at the moment and then it seems like things get heavier. Usually with a trip I feel I have to coerce visions but just from sitting in the chair, checking out the room I was not grounded to material existance at all. Probably the strangest thing that happened which was around this time (less than a minute in), the music shifted into a different plane... This was really fucking strange for me; I almost got scared for a second knowing that every sense of my body had shifted into an alternate existance. The tone of the music muffled & distorted (maybe as you could imagine being in a different room of the house while the stereo is playing with additional octave/time stretching-like qualities) but unlike anything I've ever experienced in my life. No matter how hard I've tripped in the past, taking in music has been no more altered than being stoned (at least nothing like this at all).

I looked at a pencil portrait I drew of me and my girlfriend which is on the fridge in view from where I was sitting. This B&W image come to life, lifted out of the page and appeared almost as real as physically seeing myself as another entity. My vision wasn't too clear though, a lot of weird stuff was happening (juggling the psychedelic melting-like visuals with the immaculate vision where everything looks high-definition/pure).

I can't really recall how much longer it was but I got up and decided to walk around, figure what sort of effect it would have on depth perception and my sense of 'gravity'. I was really quite disoriented, the bong still in my hand I went to put it down on the table which seemed like a task in it self... Up until now all anxiety had been removed from my body, no stress or thoughts lurking in the back of my mind. Walking around though, I realised I was way out of my comfort zone. Nothing was real and I got that 'terror'. I can't remember how long for, it could have been about 10 seconds but it surely was as extreme as ever. This time it was easy to get through knowing I've only got a few minutes to go... Walked around a bit more enjoying the last minutes of the trip.

I can't remember much else; I know I became quite paranoid and confused at the end... I felt like someone was going to come over and make the situation awkward, or the police would be dropping by. I don't know exactly what was going on, but it was a bit strange and uncomfortable.

How to sum it up? It's really beyond explanation, I'd imagine even to other experienced psychedelic users. As soon as I broke through I felt in place with everyone else who has experienced it.
 
You have to smoke DMT via vaporizing or freebase pipe. If flame hit the DMT it causes the nitrogen atoms to explode and destroys the molecule, thats why your experience wasnt as much as you expected. I made a lightbulb vaporizer, there is a easy videon youtube on how to make one.
 
This isn't meant as a judgement about your experience or anything, but what you're describing is not a breakthrough.

If you are on your feet, if you're interacting in any way with consensus reality, if you are even remotely aware that you are "you"... trust me, you haven't broken through yet.

I'm really not trying to burst your bubble. I've had plenty of subs myself. But if you are AT ALL connected with channel normal, you are only just skimming the surface. Truly.
 
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