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Testing the waters... Mild glimpse.

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But there are differences between sub breakthroughs. With very low doses, you might find yourself walking around, seeing things moving with eyes open...etc but then there is a point, where you're falling into a trance and you can't operate in consensous reality. You still feel your body and the connection to this world, but you're heading somewhere else. A (small) room or dome would unfold before your eyes, made of tiny swirly blops of living matter, or little gears rotating around. Sometimes a voice might speak to you telepathically through this living membrane of reptile skin.

This phase in the trip is still commonly refered to as a sub-breakthrough.
 
Haha valid points, I guess I've got a few attempts to go (my ego's not bruised heh). Really, I don't know if I could handle much more. Any futher detatchment from reality and I'm sure I'd be a cripled mess on the floor. I was shaken up and pretty confused from this, I can't imagine the next phase. Probably will have to make this a weekly ritual until I acheive what I'm seeking through psychedelic use. "You have to smoke DMT via vaporizing or freebase pipe" <- not to be a douche, but you'd think if I got the extraction down I'd know a few small details (despite the trouble I'm having understanding the effects heh). Going with the suggestions, a bong with infused leaf was a lot more comfotable than freebase DMT with a pipe.

Cheers, I'll document any further progress as it comes to pass.
 
Ehanced leaf is fine, don't worry - far better than a lightbulb in my opinion. But next time you want to go deeper... try closing your eyes. It will be less hectic if you're not confronted with the sudden alienness of this world, and with less to anchor you, you'll find it much easier to give yourself over entirely. Ditch the stoner rock (again it's an anchor) and commit to lying down for the duration. Find a comfortable spot where you can set down the bong and flop onto your back with eyes closed.

Rid yourself of as many anchors as you possibly can, refine your smoking technique a bit and you will absolutely get there in time.
 
I would also agree, close your eyes. I never lay down but I remain sitting cross legged on a mat. The one time I tried going for OEVs things got really strange and it wasn't entirely pleasant for me. I've had a few negative experiences with music; I find it stops me from really experiencing the trip. If it works for you, go for it but try going with no distractions.

The madness and confusion is often replaced with beauty, wonder and happy feelings. Being a crippled mass on the floor has never been an issue for me. Somehow my body manages to stay sitting up.

For me, about 5 seconds after I close my eyes all sound gets muffled out as you describe. My vision goes all black or white and I get a ringing in my ears. Then the trip starts, that's how I know I've been separated from my body completely.
 
I haven't personally tried the enhanced leaf or the lightbulb aha but when I smoked I smoked pure powder on top of ashes and jsut try to slowly light it. All I got was a rush that came upp to the point I didnt what was what on my face and then the whole things came down. It took me 1 and a hlf hours of holding the pipe with the DMT in it before I could finally take the toke
 
Probably a bit of naivety on my part regarding what to expect, but it seems like sound advice which I'll put to use for future attempts. It was really hard to imagine anything further other than entering that loop of spiraling psychedelic terror. I'm (hopefully heh) starting to understand things better.

Closed eyes; I think next time I'll setup my room nicely with no sound or light, smoke judged on the feeling rather than visuals and see where it takes me.

Uncle Knucles: That's definitely something that makes a lot of sense (anchors), thanks for bringing it up (I wouldn't have thought of it). I did notice I was fine until somewhere between the music 'turning' and walking around. It was quite disorientating.

I'm in a strange place at the moment... 3 weeks off the meds, I'm doing fine but general anxiety is kicking back in pretty hard & the non stop wandering thoughts are making me question if it's the greatest time to be tripping (ie: added anxiety thrown into the mix)... At the same time I love the idea of therapeutic psychedelic use. What are peoples opinions? I was thinking of looking for a decent day this week and keeping at it.
 
obliguhl said:
A (small) room or dome would unfold before your eyes, made of tiny swirly blops of living matter, or little gears rotating around. Sometimes a voice might speak to you telepathically through this living membrane of reptile skin.

This phase in the trip is still commonly refered to as a sub-breakthrough.
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Okay....this is my question of the moment. Just had my "next phase" experience and I'm trying to put it in perspective.

It is still SUB-breakthrough when you completely shift into the "operating room" where ....as best as I can tell...I am being "prepped" for the full hyperspace experience? (!?!?!)

WOW!!....if being completely shifted to another plane of consciousness is STILL only SUB....WOW!!....nothing else to say.:shock:

I was still "Me"...as far as a conscious entity....my body was essentially left in the room I had smoked the spice in....I can't really say much about my hyper-real body....I was too interested in the goings on of the Alien ER.
 
sit back chill, toke the pipe n think of nothing accept love, mayb somthing you love, yeh close your eyes. No sounds. you will forget the reality.



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