Tethering theroy

[Izzyrizzy]

After traveling on DMT as many times as I have, i've experienced a lot.
While tomorrow will be my 50th time traveling into DMT hyperspace. (yay for me)

The tethering theroy crossed my mind during my first few trips into hyperspace. I remember reading on this site ironically about interdimensional travel. My theory behind the use of DMT and exploring this realm, is that yes we do leave our consciousness, but we do not have the ability to travel as far as we think we do into dmt-hyperspace. I believe that in the doses normally taken (between .1-.3 of a gram) is more than enough to break through. But i believe this break through is limited.. Limited by the fact that the vessel (our bodies) we use has not expired yet, we are tethered to our bodies, forcing us to stay attached yet detached at the same time. Only when we die will we be fully free to explore hyperspace fully, we can still get an idea of what to expect.

DMT has changed my life. For the better of course, as i rearly find myself angry over pointless shit, I appreciate life so much more, and in a weird way look forward to death not in a suicidal way, but more in the sense of curiosity.
It will be the journey of all journeys ))

 

[anrchy]

I also share you understanding of being tethered to your body until you expire. I have always had the thought that taking DMT is a glimpse to what we will experience upon death, or atleast a glimpse to something that is somehow related to it. I also have become less afraid of death and share your curiosity in wanting to experience it, also not in a suicidal way. It will come when/if it does.

Also, .1-.3 grams is 100-300 milligrams. I'm guessing you meant .01-.03 (10-30mg)

 

[LoneDruid]

I have a feeling that our brains try to block or limit what we experience on dmt. What we remember when we come back from a dmt trip is just our brains trying to piece together what just happened, when in reality what really happened is 100x more incredible than what our brains can conceive.

 

[Izzyrizzy]

I also share you understanding of being tethered to your body until you expire. I have always had the thought that taking DMT is a glimpse to what we will experience upon death, or atleast a glimpse to something that is somehow related to it. I also have become less afraid of death and share your curiosity in wanting to experience it, also not in a suicidal way. It will come when/if it does.

Also, .1-.3 grams is 100-300 milligrams. I'm guessing you meant .01-.03 (10-30mg)

It just seems to me that it would make sense. Almost every time that I travel, I do it with my one buddy, who tends to be my spirit guide. Hes done DMT a crazy amount of times haha. But the more we travel together, the more we tend to have very similar experiences, almost as if we left reality together, and met up in hyperspace to explore together. But what I see when my eyes are closed, tend to make me more aware of the similarities. So how this theory fully came together, was me thinking that maybe it was possible that we leave our bodies, but we don't drift to far away from them.

And I ment .1-.3g (10% of a gram)
.01 is 1% of a gram an u need atleast .05g to break through.
The more you do, the farther away you drift from your body.

I do limit myself o 0.1g mainly because although a lot of the entities you encounter are fairly peaceful, there are entities out there that feen on life, and I do not wish to have my body taken control of by some entity. Its probably just my own paranoia, but I'd rather not play games with DMT

 

[Michal_R]

Hi, just some basic math:

1g = 1.000mg
1 breakthrough dose (when properly vaporized+inhaled, using for example a GVG) = 25mg-30mg (some Nexians report even less)
1g = 40 x breakthrough doses (40x25)!

"Izzyrizzy": if "you limit yourselve to 0,1g" - which is 100mg, or 4 "normal" brakthrough doses - then:
(1) you either have extreme tolerance to tryptamines,
(2) or you are doing a bad math
(3) or you have not perfected your vaporizing technique

Also, I don´t think I can fully agree with you that "u need atleast .05g to break through". 0.05 is 50mg, which is (when vaporized+inhaled properly...) rather a very heavy dose IMO...

Please, be really really careful with dosing properly.

 

[Izzyrizzy]

Hi, just some basic math:

1g = 1.000mg
1 breakthrough dose (when properly vaporized+inhaled, using for example a GVG) = 25mg-30mg (some Nexians report even less)
1g = 40 x breakthrough doses (40x25)!

"Izzyrizzy": if "you limit yourselve to 0,1g" - which is 100mg, or 4 "normal" brakthrough doses - then:
(1) you either have extreme tolerance to tryptamines,
(2) or you are doing a bad math
(3) or you have not perfected your vaporizing technique

Also, I don´t think I can fully agree with you that "u need atleast .05g to break through". 0.05 is 50mg, which is (when vaporized+inhaled properly...) rather a very heavy dose IMO...

Please, be really really careful with dosing properly.

Im thinking my math is messed up. My method of smoking is in fact correct. And i know my dosage is correct as well. But i do smoke the changa more often than crystal ad in the past i would pack around .15 - .2 into the pipe i had that resembled a crack pipe to vape the changa. (i dont smoke crack -_-) atleast thats what my scale displayed.

Edit:

If in fact you can get 40 breakthru doses off a gram. Thats stunning for me, considering i usually get 10 breakthru rips off a gram.
And my math was correct, i was taking in about 150mg-200mg per session. Of changa of course, if that matters.

 

[LetSoulsDevour]

Hi, just some basic math:

1g = 1.000mg
1 breakthrough dose (when properly vaporized+inhaled, using for example a GVG) = 25mg-30mg (some Nexians report even less)
1g = 40 x breakthrough doses (40x25)!

"Izzyrizzy": if "you limit yourselve to 0,1g" - which is 100mg, or 4 "normal" brakthrough doses - then:
(1) you either have extreme tolerance to tryptamines,
(2) or you are doing a bad math
(3) or you have not perfected your vaporizing technique

Also, I don´t think I can fully agree with you that "u need atleast .05g to break through". 0.05 is 50mg, which is (when vaporized+inhaled properly...) rather a very heavy dose IMO...

Please, be really really careful with dosing properly.

Im thinking my math is messed up. My method of smoking is in fact correct. And i know my dosage is correct as well. But i do smoke the changa more often than crystal ad in the past i would pack around .15 - .2 into the pipe i had that resembled a crack pipe to vape the changa. (i dont smoke crack -_-) atleast thats what my scale displayed.

Edit:

If in fact you can get 40 breakthru doses off a gram. Thats stunning for me, considering i usually get 10 breakthru rips off a gram.
And my math was correct, i was taking in about 150mg-200mg per session. Of changa of course, if that matters.

Yes but what also matters is how much the leafMT ratio was in the changa. I usually go for 1:1 which means that 50mg of changa contains 25mg of DMT and that gets me pretty far.

 

[Izzyrizzy]

Hi, just some basic math:

1g = 1.000mg
1 breakthrough dose (when properly vaporized+inhaled, using for example a GVG) = 25mg-30mg (some Nexians report even less)
1g = 40 x breakthrough doses (40x25)!

"Izzyrizzy": if "you limit yourselve to 0,1g" - which is 100mg, or 4 "normal" brakthrough doses - then:
(1) you either have extreme tolerance to tryptamines,
(2) or you are doing a bad math
(3) or you have not perfected your vaporizing technique

Also, I don´t think I can fully agree with you that "u need atleast .05g to break through". 0.05 is 50mg, which is (when vaporized+inhaled properly...) rather a very heavy dose IMO...

Please, be really really careful with dosing properly.

Im thinking my math is messed up. My method of smoking is in fact correct. And i know my dosage is correct as well. But i do smoke the changa more often than crystal ad in the past i would pack around .15 - .2 into the pipe i had that resembled a crack pipe to vape the changa. (i dont smoke crack -_-) atleast thats what my scale displayed.

Edit:

If in fact you can get 40 breakthru doses off a gram. Thats stunning for me, considering i usually get 10 breakthru rips off a gram.
And my math was correct, i was taking in about 150mg-200mg per session. Of changa of course, if that matters.

Yes but what also matters is how much the leafMT ratio was in the changa. I usually go for 1:1 which means that 50mg of changa contains 25mg of DMT and that gets me pretty far.

Ahh ok, im not 100% positive what the ratio of the changa i get is. But i do plan to extract my own crystal very soon, i have everything i need except the bark. In the process of obtaining the money needed to order it.

 

[anrchy]

How much dmt do you dissolve in how much leafy material. That would tell you what size doses your taking. 0.1 grams is 100mg 0.01 grams is 10 mg and 0.001 grams is 1mg.

Highest I have went is 0.045 grams which is 45mg and that is overkill for a breakthrough but I became too astonished at what I was experiencing to breakthrough. My 40 mg dose I was too worried about my body to breakthrough.

These were all freebase rather than changa

 

[Electric Kool-Aid]

Ok. So we got our doses right.. Ok?

Now on to the meat of the story!!! Continue with the life after death and DMT giving you a glimps of it, but not very far because of the teather! I am interested!!

So do you float around? Walk? Glide? Are you just a light? Or a 3rd eye? Just so curious.

I am wondering if we can do training techniques to learn to remember. Like something to stimulate a part of our brain for remembering. Is this a small portion of our brains we use while in hyperspace? Does anyone know about dreaming and what part of our brains we use for that? Maybe there is a link to it and can induce something like Lucid dreams often and open up that part of the brain, stimulating it for spice hyper travel memory recall. What do you think?

 

[anrchy]

I think there's a similiar explanation of astral travel through meditation about a tethering to the body. If DMT is part of what launches us out of our body when we die then it must be the knife that cuts the cord so to speak.

 

[Electric Kool-Aid]

I heard one person in here say that he could lengthen his DMT experience by asking the entities to explain it again. I wonder if you can do that while moving deeper. Just say you arent done yet.

Another thing I just thought of now. Make a resporator type device that has a hose that attaches to a pipe (gvg, machine, bong) and have a friend help you with it. Then when you get your hit and hold it and go in to hyperspace. Then the friend reloads the pipe and lights it for you. So you are breathing in more vapor. Then you trip longer and so on. Please dont try this. But this is an idea I just thought of now! This would make it so you can hyper travel longer, because you havent come down yet and are loading up more in your body.

 

[anrchy]

Using an MAOI Is probably an easier method I would believe. I haven't tried yet but isn't that one of the main reason for this?

I once lengthened a small dose journey by a couple minutes. I "held" on to "something" with my mind and the entity I was interacting with did the same. Kind of like we were holding hands or something. It was an amazing situation.

 

[Electric Kool-Aid]

You both held on!! That is sooooo cool!
Someone said they brought something back to play with for a bit until it faded. I thought that was way cool!

 

[anrchy]

You both held on!! That is sooooo cool!
Someone said they brought something back to play with for a bit until it faded. I thought that was way cool!

If you check out my "They are Alive" thread this is the experience I'm talking about where I held on. On my last post, #5 is where I wrote about holding on to the experience.

So weird I just read through that thread and had forgotten most of it. I'm so glad for this forum to be able to post my experiences not just for you guys but for me to relive as well. So awesome.

 

[Izzyrizzy]

Ok. So we got our doses right.. Ok?

Now on to the meat of the story!!! Continue with the life after death and DMT giving you a glimps of it, but not very far because of the teather! I am interested!!

So do you float around? Walk? Glide? Are you just a light? Or a 3rd eye? Just so curious.

I am wondering if we can do training techniques to learn to remember. Like something to stimulate a part of our brain for remembering. Is this a small portion of our brains we use while in hyperspace? Does anyone know about dreaming and what part of our brains we use for that? Maybe there is a link to it and can induce something like Lucid dreams often and open up that part of the brain, stimulating it for spice hyper travel memory recall. What do you think?

This is a great question! Although in smaller doses, where breaking through is not imminent, i believe your 3rd does open, and you see what normally cannot be seen by your eyes... While in higher doses when breaking through, i believe that you temporarily leave your body, but are still connected and can't drift as far away.
There are techniques to help remember parts of your experience. My one buddy has a journal that he writes about what he feels and sees, but so he can understand. As far as your idea of lucid dreaming on a trip, sounds interesting.. I have no comment about that as of now.

 

[Electric Kool-Aid]

Sweet. Thanks for your reply Izzy!
Lets research this!

Does anyone know how to lucid dream? Are you good at it? Do you find you remember more dreams after practicing lucid dreaming? Would love to know! Maybe this is the key to dream memory and that in turn can help remembering DMT sessions better!