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The HANDBOOK - another way to understand DMT Entities

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FeraeNaturae said:
A funny incident happened to me after reading this thread. In particular, I was interested in the information about Tsentsak, which was provided by the respected Benway.
I have never met a truly aggressive entity in my travels. I am not an experienced traveler yet. But reading the Nexus forum, I often come across the opinion that such entities can appear even for more experienced travelers.
When I read about Tsentsak, I thought I should memorize this method. Just in case.
On the same day, when it got dark, I took my just-made DMT car (then my GVG had not yet been delivered to me). I soaked a copper wire pillow with spice, took a lighter and went out into the garden. Sitting comfortably in his favorite chair, he proceeded to vaporize. But I found that my butane lighter went out when I aimed the flame down. I had no other lighter. I have a butane burner. But it doesn't go out when I let it go. To extinguish this burner, you need to close the tap. I thought that since there is nothing to burn in the garden, I only risk my own skin. I took the burner, thought over my actions after evaporation of the spice. I lit the burner, inhaled it all in one long breath. The smoke was bitter and unpleasant, probably I was burning the spice. I thought that the spice was burnt and I didn't have enough for a breakthrough. But there was a lot of smoke. I think there was some spice left in the pillow after I evaporated the spice from the pillow in my vaporizer, which was apparently ineffective.
I realized that this time, the effect of the spice comes very quickly. I turned off the burner. As I bent down to put the burner aside, I noticed a huge, dark, demonic-looking entity among the trees. I had time to think that I would need to remember about Tsentsak if this entity turns out to be dangerous. Then I turned the other way to gently put my DMT car down. Yellow and orange hexagons were already dancing around me, amidst the mechanical sounds. I thought I needed to check if my butane burner had gone out. When I turned to the side where I left the burner, I saw that the garden in front of me, illuminated with bright light, around me there are a lot of multi-colored, very bright entities, similar to the Joker. That dark being of demonic appearance, huge, above the trees stood practically in front of my chair. Before I had time to realize it all, as one of these multi-colored entities, I will call her the Joker, she jumped my knees with irony looking me straight in the eyes. She thrust her finger right into my head and said, “You put out the burner. You burned the DMT. But that's enough for you. ”Then she raised her head towards that huge dark entity and told him with the same irony“ he wanted to throw Tsentsak at you ”. And everyone started laughing. They just laughed at me like horses. Everyone, except for a huge dark entity, set off in some wild, colored round dance around me. They continued to laugh out loud. Then they stopped, looked at me, and the Joker again jumped into my lap, and with his trademark smile, put his finger in my head. - “You put out the burner. You burned the DMT. But that's enough for you, ”he said again. I thought it could go on forever and not be interesting. “I get it,” I said to the Joker. The Joker jumped off his knees, and again, laughing, everyone began to dance around my chair. New essences arrived, it is amazing how they fit in my, far from small garden. There were already three of those dark and huge. They just stood over me, looked down at me and laughed.
Gradually, the intensity of the round dance began to subside, the entities began to disperse. The last to leave were the huge dark entities. I sat dazed, watching the three huge backs wandering down the slope.
I must say that after traveling, I always find objects that my mind used to show me fantastic entities and landscapes. The image of those dark giants, my mind sketched from the silhouettes of trees against the background of the sky lit by the moon. But here's the Joker, it was a mystery. I have not seen anything like this around me.
Then I came here to share with you my experience.
As soon as I opened this thread, I saw the avatar of the respected FranLover! Oh yeah! This is him, the image that my mind used to show me the Joker while traveling. I laugh at myself now and then, while traveling.

Thanks for the opportunity to share this.
Sorry for my english.
Enjoy your travels!
Hi FeraeNaturae,

very interesting experience.

In fact I would say that from alchemy I have learned that etities must be respected and that you can respond to them by seeking help from friendly entities. I do not think we are prepared to react against an entity also because in this way we become indebted to them.

I have noticed that each plant carries with it the spirits of humans who have dealt with a given plant. So the mimosa connects me with the pre-Columbian entities (new experience for me) and the phalaris show themselves with many different aspects until I associate the right figures with those that would coincide with the plant: sometimes it appears demonic (shows how it can be when is angry), sometimes she appears humanoid, sometimes human (a beautiful girl like Mesopotamian, perhaps because she comes from there), sometimes plant as such, sometimes half plant half human etc ...

Benway has been absent for a long time already and I am left ... ... for now I hope.

Similarly to how an entity can be presented, it would be interesting to attribute it to a given species starting from understanding whether it is mobile or immobile, or if it belongs to atoms or animals or plants.

What has been tried is to parallelize entities and sensations and emotions that we can feel (example: a mouse could be the guardian of fear, hydrogen could be the guardian of force. Or instead of guardians they could be what we identify with senses and emotions etc ...).

But I think I'm complicating too much by trying to explain too many things in a few words ...
 
I can vouch as others have that speaking out some narrative does a lot more work than anything else I've tried in combating entities. Though I find it hard to be self aware enough of that tactic most of the time.

I would like to question the idea that anything should be assumed to have a unique experience / a conscious. Even other humans. I mean in the sense that there is a subjective experience behind them, which one can only assume is similar to their own.

Imagine playing an MMO like World of Warcraft. With a few simple tweaks, nobody could tell a player character from a non-player character, except by some indirect way via their actions. Put an ever more trained chat-gpt like system behind all of them, and you'll be spending a lot time figuring out who has a person behind the screen, and who is run by an automatic system.

A system that can, in fact, limit reactions based on the unique variables of each individual NPC, giving them a psuedo-unique-perspective, while undoubtedly lacking a human observation of that perspective.

Which is just an analogy to illustrate the idea that just because you have a unique experience isn't good evidence that anything else you interact with needs one to operate the way they do...

Maybe humans really are just bodies as we label them. But that's well thought of in reincarnation culture. What doesn't seem to be well thought of, except by matrix believers, is the idea that not every human necessarily needs a spirit, soul, or self experience to operate.

By the same logic I tend to think only a certain few entities in DMT land have had a unique perspective, and the others are mindless creatures or some intelligent but automated machines.
 
Hey. Consider me a DMT hitchhiker, a researcher thats writing things down in a little notebook. Im tryina coax out some more details as to what might be felt in the deepest reaches of the space of nDMT (to further understand either the entities or whats being referred to)

1. For one, i might start by asking something akin to what it feels like, as I seem to consider this as either visual, or sound/felt based reality as being a kindve personification of thoughts, feelings and emotions—as alternating switches that light up, that which are nevertheless between the material and the space of deep energies. Question:

Is the feeling "very focused in" on what thoughts, feeling or emotions are inside of you, or does it encapsulate all possibilities of everything, in such a way as to create (whatever create may mean) layers of new experiences/said details of the *experience*? Or another way to phrase it is, does it feel like, after this launch, that you havent a clue whats going on—you are a bit fastened to wherever, or are you moving? As in either case, thats sortve akin to a single passage—that could be either a world of possibilities, or a single cylinder of alternating switches, depending on whichever better describes your experience—if you had to choose.

Its like, most people say they are like, faced with a *thing*, or, that is, its described in the type of sense, like when you are on a rollercoaster: You sit there, and the ride passes by. My question around that is, "are you the passenger on the ride, or is it like, the identity of the passenger really depends on where you are in the experience"... The former is more akin to classical descriptions/perspectives, but it sortve depends on some distinction that sets you apart in the experience.

Like its hard to know sometimes, of like, what people are describing, so im jus tryina pull that apart and see if theres a better way you could describe it. For example, in a dream, the way we launch off could be vaguely illustrated with a — first, we create a space of sleep opportunity, and then, a reocurring thought, feeling and emotion runs (sortve our "habitual on switch" more or less), and we sortve play that sequence until it gets a bit relaxed, relaxed, relaxed, and it turns into a bit of a messy painting, whereby there are of course central themes, significant points that have been pulled with to the deepest spheres of the canonical experience. But on external DMT, obviously its not gonna be like that, so supposing we had to differentiate it from that sortve idea of a cyclical proto-dream state, how would you then describe?

*Unless, it is like that, just more accelerated and warped out
 
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Hey. Consider me a DMT hitchhiker, a researcher that's writing things down in a little notebook. I'm trying to coax out some more details as to what might be felt in the deepest reaches of the space of N,N-DMT (to further understand either the entities or what's being referred to).

1. For one, I might start by asking something akin to what it feels like, as I seem to consider this as either visual, or sound/felt based reality as being a kind of personification of thoughts, feelings and emotions—as alternating switches that light up, that which are nevertheless between the material and the space of deep energies. Question:

Is the feeling "very focused in" on what thoughts, feeling or emotions are inside of you, or does it encapsulate all possibilities of everything, in such a way as to create (whatever create may mean) layers of new experiences/said details of the *experience*? Or another way to phrase it is, does it feel like, after this launch, that you havent a clue what's going on—you are a bit fastened to wherever, or are you moving? As in either case, thats sort of akin to a single passage—that could be either a world of possibilities, or a single cylinder of alternating switches, depending on whichever better describes your experience—if you had to choose.

It's like, most people say they are faced with a *thing*, or, that is, it's described in the type of sense, like when you are on a rollercoaster: You sit there, and the ride passes by. My question around that is, "are you the passenger on the ride, or is it that the identity of the passenger really depends on where you are in the experience"... The former is more akin to classical descriptions/perspectives, but it sort of depends on some distinction that sets you apart in the experience.

Like it's hard to know, sometimes, what people are describing, so I'm just trying to pull that apart and see if there's a better way you could describe it. For example, in a dream, the way we launch off could be vaguely illustrated with a — first, we create a space of sleep opportunity, and then, a reocurring thought, feeling and emotion runs (sort of our "habitual on switch" more or less), and we sort of play that sequence until it gets a bit relaxed, relaxed, relaxed, and it turns into a bit of a messy painting, whereby there are of course central themes, significant points that have been pulled along to the deepest spheres of the canonical experience. But on external DMT, obviously its not going to be like that, so supposing we had to differentiate it from that sort of idea of a cyclical proto-dream state, how would you then describe?

- Unless, it is like that, just more accelerated and warped out?
Well it could be, it's just very subjective. If you were to replace terms like "like" and "sortve" [sort of] in what you've just written, how do you think that might affect your understanding of the experience?

Perhaps this exercise would help you sharpen your understanding of what you actually want to ask, as it was these areas of ambiguity that really stood out to me in making your questions hard to follow.

This is just a suggestion for how you might make your own notes easier to fathom, since you have more than the beginnings of an accessible writing style.

Have you tried DMT before, by the way?
 
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