emong
Rising Star
Greetings Friends:
I am starting this thread in order to discuss what role ritual plays in the experience of taking psychedelics. Hopefully, the discussion may evolve into something more general and philosophical as people weigh in with their thoughts.
The background for this post is from something Voidmatrix said when we were discussing our experience of using cannabis to have a full psychedelic experience in my Introduction Essay:
I would like to ask the following:
1. Where does the ritual start?
Is it only related to the circumstances surrounding the taking of a psychedelic (like meditating at an altar, chanting, centering, etc.)?
Does it involve the growing of a plant?
I found that I could only achieve a psychedelic state with Cannabis by ritualising the growing of it right from seed.
Does it involve the extraction of material?
I have seen that many of the teks for DMT extraction advertise their easiness, effectiveness, and quickness. Have any of you noticed whether the experience changes if the intention of the extraction is not just for ease, efficiency or speed...or is white crystals just white crystals?
Again, and especially for cannabis, I found that the preparation of the material was important for achieving a psychedelic state.
2. Do any of you have experiences where you have compared journeys where ritual was used/not used?
I mean this in regards to substances like DMT, mushrooms, etc. where the psychedelic effect is virtually guaranteed and not like cannabis where the psychedelic effect is not the usual effect. How was the experience different?
3. What actually constitutes having/performing/doing rituals?
What turns the act of growing, preparing, extracting, administering from just a set of actions performed into something that changes the reality of an experience?
I think that we could just start with that right now and see where it leads us (if it does lead us anywhere and any of you are interested!).
I would like to see what the rest of you think before I blurt out my own opinions.
Kind regards and respect.
I am starting this thread in order to discuss what role ritual plays in the experience of taking psychedelics. Hopefully, the discussion may evolve into something more general and philosophical as people weigh in with their thoughts.
The background for this post is from something Voidmatrix said when we were discussing our experience of using cannabis to have a full psychedelic experience in my Introduction Essay:
It was in a guide-work intensive in which I first came across these experiences. Ritualizing the event seems to be pretty paramount in achieving the desired psychedelic effect.
I would like to ask the following:
1. Where does the ritual start?
Is it only related to the circumstances surrounding the taking of a psychedelic (like meditating at an altar, chanting, centering, etc.)?
Does it involve the growing of a plant?
I found that I could only achieve a psychedelic state with Cannabis by ritualising the growing of it right from seed.
Does it involve the extraction of material?
I have seen that many of the teks for DMT extraction advertise their easiness, effectiveness, and quickness. Have any of you noticed whether the experience changes if the intention of the extraction is not just for ease, efficiency or speed...or is white crystals just white crystals?
Again, and especially for cannabis, I found that the preparation of the material was important for achieving a psychedelic state.
2. Do any of you have experiences where you have compared journeys where ritual was used/not used?
I mean this in regards to substances like DMT, mushrooms, etc. where the psychedelic effect is virtually guaranteed and not like cannabis where the psychedelic effect is not the usual effect. How was the experience different?
3. What actually constitutes having/performing/doing rituals?
What turns the act of growing, preparing, extracting, administering from just a set of actions performed into something that changes the reality of an experience?
I think that we could just start with that right now and see where it leads us (if it does lead us anywhere and any of you are interested!).
I would like to see what the rest of you think before I blurt out my own opinions.
Kind regards and respect.