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The most epic psychedelic combo?

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justine said:
I have the feeling that MXE+4-aco-dmt or shrooms might be incredible :)
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I can confirm this.

I actually think taking MXE without a tryptamine isn't a very good idea. Mushrooms added a grounding to the MXE experience that stopped me from going off on crazy idea trips. It was also very quite euphoric. Pretty much everytime I used MXE I'd at least smoke some DMT, but with the couple of times I didn't the feeling of well being after touching base wasn't as sustainable.
 
A combo i'm gonna do some more experimenting with is iboga/shrooms. Up till now i've only experienced this combo with small doses of iboga, but the results where great and i think larger amounts may be very epic indeed. I think iboga/shrooms, iboga/LSD or iboga/cannabis could be the most insane experience in the world. Iboga is like caapi, a plant with a huge effect on other substances.
 
MXE + shrooms is a very interesting combination for sure. I had a very fun night on it with some close friends, with both things playfully tugging us in different directions, then it came to bed time and the trip shifted gears. I went in to a very intense therapeutic space...it was by far the closest I've ever been to Iboga actually, very Iboga-esque. It wasn't fun the latter part, but I had some serious therapy and it cured me of insomnia I had been suffering from...definitely gave me a good defrag. So very interesting potential this combo I think, the possible benefits of Iboga, or at least some of them, without the ordeal of actually taking Iboga!

And yes Mr polytrip I agree and think that Iboga and mushrooms in particular could be a very interesting combination. The guy who oversaw my initiation with Iboga said to avoid baeocystin species like liberty caps (on the second time he attempted to feed us them while on the Iboga...) but I have very little faith in most of what he says. Would be interesting to play around with the Iboga/mushroom ratios and see what happens, and cannabis has been used traditionally with Iboga in Africa for a long time. Interesting possibilities on the Iboga + LSD front as well.
 
fractal enchantment said:
MDMA and amphetamine?..really?
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Yes fractal, i wouldn't recommend this combo to my worst enemy though. Absolutely mindshattering ego death on this combo for me. It was actually mda and pink champagne speed, blew me out of existence for 5 hours or so and i still have mental effects from this experience.
 
JackCastle said:
O sorry I didn't realize ketamine was discouraged.

Edit: Given the information above I am not encouraging anyone to try anything they don't feel comfortable doing just looking for information I never even realized that ketamine was psychological addictive I mean I dont have an addictive personality so its very easy for me to do drugs and come off/ run out and not want anymore or feel like I need it so if you have a problem with dependency please do not look at this post as me encouraging any drug use I believe that drugs like anything should be taken wisely and are not to be abused especially those of the psychedelic nature.
Namaste
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Ketamine is very very addictive believe me everything in that discouraging thread is true and i've felt the negative effects through overuse. Still though i don't think it should be discouraged to speak about but i don't make the rules.
 
RayOfLight said:
The weirdest combo Ive done is mescaline , mdma, mushrooms, coffee, nitrous , changa .

that was the furthest I've ever gone.
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Wow...

Just one question, RayOfLight, were you able to discern all of the different effects in their own right or was it a homogeneous, blended synthesis? That's a lot of stuff to process, friend!!! I mean, could you feel the not-so-subtle influences of the tryptamines and phenethylamines as distinct? Also, did you imbibe them all at once or over a spread-out duration of time? Can you please tell us a little bit about this mind-blowing experience? :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

When I have combined: extracted THC and LSD, nitrous oxide and LSD, mescaline and LSD or mushrooms and LSD (I haven't mixed cacti and fungi yet)... I was very aware of WHICH Sacred Medicine was doing WHAT to my perception, WHEN. I know them each well and they are most unique, despite their similarity in their capacity for mind expansion. Perhaps it was the timing, characteristics and duration of these potent teachers? More that that though, there are distinctive qualities that these entheogens offer to our perceptual field. What I want more than anything else is to take a ride with Mescalito and smoke some vaporized Spice. This would be a wonder fusion!!! Anyone done so on a regular basis? Secondly, I'd like to combine mescaline and p. mushrooms. Sun and moon, earth and sky... seems like wonderful mix, as well!!! 8)

Peace, love & light
 
Achuma & Ayahuasca combined with vaporized harmalas and dmt is pretty intense. The one time swim did this, he was going pretty good on his mescalhuasca combo, and decided to see where some vaporized dmt could take him. Vaporized some harmala only changa, then some dmt changa, and swim had THE most visual experience of any drug hes ever tried.

Swim has trouble with hyperspace when vaporizing, visuals never really fully develop like some of his 1st trips. But ayahuasca with fumarates really goes pretty far for him, and is his preferred ingestion method.

Indeed caapi combined with achuma causes some amphetaminesque symptoms. Had some uncomfortable experiences with the combo, including terrible jaw-tension. Also had some really fucking good times. Swim just thinks he needs to get his dose down, just like aya, adjusting ratios of caapi/cactus. This combo is definitely not for everyone, and swim has decided to stick to aya for a few months before revisiting the combo.
 
I don't think LSD and MDMA is a particularly good mix. I have tried LSD & Ketamine though, and that was good. I was in a room staring at a miniature laptop having a moment with the front cover of A Flock of Beeps by Younger Brother. My friend had an Indian throw which comprised of interlocking alternating circular patterns. These began to unlock and open into a sphere whilst my two friends were engrossed in a deep personal conversation. I just sat and gawped for what felt like three hours. It was a very good experience, it was liquid LSD which just seemed to be so much better than any other LSD I have tried. I try to avoid Ketamine these days, it's a bit rubbish and caused me a lot of hassle in the past.

2.5g of Cubensis with Syrian rue, and 150mg DMT was another epic one. I was alone in my room for this one. I had a really decent basement bedroom at that point, and had a projector showing up a delightful erupting fractal which I used to gauge when the shrooms were kicking in, as it began to animate its ebbs and flows. After a while the screen blanked and the bright blue "no signal" screen came up. This was offset well by the beige ambient lighting surrounding the projector on the other side of the room. At this point I stared intently at the no signal sign, visuals not unlike a camera flare began to emerge from the center of the projection and began to surround me. Throughout the shroom trip I smoke about 3 hits of DMT, the last of which sent the room spinning into flat packed blobs of color, they raced against each other, enveloping one another so quickly it was hard to keep track. The music (Future Sound of London) pounced on me with the sound of fluttering (wings, leaves, whatever) and that side of the room (projector, computer, speakers) began to shred apart into an incomprehensible oblivion, the tears were quite jagged and obviously directly related to the movement of the sounds. My heart began to pound a bit but I kept cool (which is quite easy to do when you've been sat on your ass in bed gawping at the reality laid out before you I find). The spinning sensation subsided after the flutters passed, and my attention was spat out onto the other side of the room, the carpet began to grow bright golden seedlings which sublimated into the ether leaving me dumbstruck.

Wormwood, DMT, Salvia, Caapi smoking blend (a harsh smoke). This one was quite interesting in that it took me somewhere I had not even begun to consider. The salvia flattened out my perception of depth, the distribution of shadows and light did not correlate to my mental structure of the physical world. I smoked this for a couple of hours. Towards the end the there were large gaps in what my mind consented as reality, these gaps were filled with repetitive patterns, admittedly somewhere between the French Absinthe-y style and the Mayan - i'd say squashed ad elongated - style. The television was on and I had no issue seeing the images playing on the flat screen, though they were of no interest to me whatsoever. Interestingly, moving my head around or any other means of snapping out of a trance would send me back to a fairly compos mentis state, but as soon as I let the ego slip the shadow patterns would quickly come creeping back. I had an interesting experience on Salvia listening to Debussy once, and felt like I was in a dimensional stream playing with some girl in a forest - which is quite amazing given the song is pretty much named after such a scene. I'm keen to keep on with Salvia and DMT, I think that you can see some things on that road, I find the visuals from the DMT make the whole experience more tangible when you try to recall it.
 
polytrip said:
Shrooms and iboga beats everything i've taken thus far.
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Please share a bit of info, polytrip.


Can you tell us about the ratio of each Medicine? Also, did you ingest both at the same time or at different intervals? Once more question, if I may. Since you've obviously done each of these entheogens on their own before, how does the synthesis of the two enhance your perception? How are they similar to one another and how are they distinct (each being tryptamines)? I've never tried Iboga, so I am curious. Thanks in advance for any insights! 8)
 
the first good psychedelic combo I ever experienced was LSD with Salvia divinorum. I remember many times during the peak I heard crazy loud and completely original electronic music that sounded like a UFO landing over me and then taking off and disappearing when the peak went down. Then I also remember how salvia visuals would persist over the LSD for much time after.

The next combo I tried was salvia extract at the peak of a mushroom trip. at that time I had a closet, converted into a seriously comfortable tripping chamber, total darkness and silence, and total comfort with pillows and blankets, and I used to trip balls on psilocybin in there, and smoking salvia extract a few times literally put me in a dream world for a few minutes-- holding hands in a circle in a meadow the woods on a bright sunny day, children laughing, jumping and dancing all around me.



I didnt like drinking caapi with san pedro, it does potentiate but it wasnt very enjoyable because the nousea phase seemed to last much longer than it would have drinking either of them by themselves.

Smoking caapi or caapi extracts while tripping on san pedro however is quite nice. San pedro has a way of enhancing your attention and you can feel so many details in the effects of smoking caapi, like your head opening up to the spirits around and the distinct taste of a traditional ayahuasca brew in your mouth and your head.

That and then smoked bufotenin extract at the peak of a san pedro trip is my current epic combo. A good bufo extract on san pedro produces very little side effects or nousea, and is a very strong surge of tryptamine effects and it last a long time.
 
benzyme said:
Mindlusion said:
Dissociatives + DMT
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yes.

DMT + PCP
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Really? Hmmm... Never done PCP. Not on the top of the list to be honest..... Too much bad propaganda about it I guess.

I don't take K any more and I wouldn't recommend it really. Reasons being:
- It puts you inside yourself, takes you out of the world in a blunting way, whereas I want to explore my psyche and be opened up (tryptamines are the best for me for doing this).
- It is directly related to apathy.. Really, K makes you more apathetic.
- It's very psychologically addictive and I've got a hugely addictive personality and just about avoided having a problem with K, but saw people who got to the point they were doing 4-6 grams a day, up to 10 grams to go out. Luckily didn't need bladder replacements, but I know of others who have had to have treatments usually only reserved for cancer patients thanks to K abuse.

Having said that -- I'd vote for K and acid as the best combo of psychs. It's so lucid, brings the best out of both chems. Also, there's nothing quite like coming up on acid in a k-hole, which was a mistake I made once with 3 drops of liquid heh.

2ci and K comes pretty close as well actually. Definitely a good alternative if you can't commit to an acid trip.

Haven't tried D & K but I could imagine it'd be pretty good, no fear, almost endless potential. Hmmm...

(Also 5-meo-mipt and 2ci marry incredibly well, as does 2ci and acid)
 
Rising Spirit said:
polytrip said:
Shrooms and iboga beats everything i've taken thus far.
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Please share a bit of info, polytrip.


Can you tell us about the ratio of each Medicine? Also, did you ingest both at the same time or at different intervals? Once more question, if I may. Since you've obviously done each of these entheogens on their own before, how does the synthesis of the two enhance your perception? How are they similar to one another and how are they distinct (each being tryptamines)? I've never tried Iboga, so I am curious. Thanks in advance for any insights! 8)
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I have done a couple of experiments with this combo and it takes some precission indeed for the synergy to fully work.
Firstly, ibogaine takes some time before it starts working and therefore you'd best take the shrooms about an hour after you've ingested the iboga. Normally a small amount (between 3 and 5 grams of rootbark)of iboga combined with an amount of shrooms that you normally would be comfortable with causes the shrooms to become more like iboga. It would be a shroomtrip that has less colourfull visuals, but with a much more deep feeling of immersion, and sensations like OBE's, the sensation of flying, falling or dissolving into a deep trance.

The most spectacular experience i had with it though was a month after i had taken 12 grams of iboga rootbark and two days after having taken three grams of rootbark. I took 4 grams of rootbark with shrooms, but the main thing was that the accumulation of the iboga in my body, caused the 4 grams i took to have the same effects as you would normally have with amounts of 10 grams or more. I didn't expect that at all and with the shrooms i had taken, this resulted in a very strong experience. It is very difficult to describe it. My ability to speak or think logically was almost completely impaired. I had OBE's and went into a very deep sedating trance. This time visuals where very colourfull with both eyes open or eyes closed, but in a different way than shroom visuals. They where very warm and had a gold-like glow on them. I experienced visions as if i where right inside of them, and i re-experienced things from my early childhood. I experienced for instance, how i first learned the meanings of words. These memories where real and not imaginary. I cannot proof this but iboga is known for doing that.
So this way i accidentally discovered a method to have a fully visionary iboga experience without having to vomit on wich i posted in the iboga section. If you would take small amounts of iboga for a few days in a row untill levels of noribogaine in the body have reached a certain level, a dose of 4 grams of rootbark can have the same effects, doses of more than 10 grams would normally have.

I would not recommend trying it without first having experience with both shrooms and iboga separetely, without a sitter or without having experienced lower amounts of this combination first. It is VERY powerfull.
 
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